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    Question 2 storey pig shed

    mrs scotty is building a pig shed, so i showed her old monkeys one with the great idea of a n overlapping roof, her response as usual was i cant do that as i am building a two storey one,

    so the question is do any of you guys forsee any probs with a two storey pig house, having never seen one myself, but i would of thought it would be fraught with problems do you need a lift (lol) etc .
    think it might be one more of her hair brained ideas paid for by yours truly hmm

    so comments please and don't hold back


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    Not sure how big Thai pigs get but I'm sure you will find out when you have to carry them and all their poo down the stairs, the poo will be everyday, the pigs when they are big and fat enough to be slaughtered.

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    Should be ok...at 100kg a pig at 6 months, they a little bit less than most foreigners....

    As for shuveling the shit....plan it and it will not be a problem. Drains to carry it all away, throw stuff over the edge etc and a ramp to move the pigs up and down as required.

    Only real problem is the extra strength, materials and cost to build 2 levels than one i woulld imagine. You could still build that roof same same OM's. Also put a gap in the floor up the middle on second level to allow heat from below to travel directly up and out the vents.....should be nice n cool.
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    It can be done although one would wonder about the cost. Is there a shortage of space? Moving food would probably be time consuming. Think a main concern would be ventilation.

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    You will also have to make sure you buy those special acrophobia-free piglets.

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    Can't imagine why she would want to build a double-decker pig pen. Only guess I can make is that you have very little land available for this project, and she is trying to get in more pigs in the limited space available. What's the deal? The whole concept seems fraught with problems - ventilation, movement, waste disposal, transport of feed, heat, transport of livestock, etc, etc. Doesn't seem very practical at all. Plus, if it is a space problem, and you have neighbors that close, they are not going to be very happy as piggeries STINK!

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    having just had another chat with mrs scotty (she talked i listened) it seems like its not for pigs on both levels as the bottom bit is quite low and it will house chickens and ducks.
    the roof is going to be made up of woven reed type matting with bamboo used instead of steel work in a traditionally made roof i personally would of liked to have seen old monkeys style roof incorporated in the build,as it makes a lot of sense
    still seems a bit silly to me though as there is definately plenty of land..
    i think that some of the waste is going to land up in the fish pond and the rest is going to be mixed up with the rice husks and sold off in bags for rubber trees.

    so i guess guys its a case of wait and see

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    ^Update this thread now and then Scotty, as it sounds like a right disaster in the making! Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    ^Update this thread now and then Scotty, as it sounds like a right disaster in the making! Cheers.
    would not be at all surprised lol

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    Especially if there is plenty of land...

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    ^Yep. I don't get it.

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    University of Iowa did a study a long time ago about stacking pigs. What they did was to allow the top ones to shit down to the downstairs and the residents there ate it up. Dunno wht the results were?????????

    Should have something on the internet about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander
    think it might be one more of her hair brained ideas paid for by yours truly hmm
    Why not grow some balls and tell her that it gets done properly (for Thailand) or not at all?

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    [QUOTE=NPW;1469540]University of Iowa did a study a long time ago about stacking pigs. What they did was to allow the top ones to shit down to the downstairs and the residents there ate it up. Dunno wht the results were?????????

    think you might end up with ''Mad Pigs Disease'' or a lot of pissed off Pigs!

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    as a great Australian would say....pigs aaaarrrrssse

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    Hope this helps


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    Hope this helps

    love the two story piggy house , but you have the birds on top lo l

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    Birds fly; pigs generally don't.

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    Maybe the second level is for you HL...and you just don't know it yet.

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    makes more sense to house the chickens upstairs.
    chickens are not very efficient at converting nutrients,-plenty food value left in their turds and the feed can easily be passed through the chickens twice.
    feedlot cattle are often fed on a meal containing a high percentage of chickenshit,so the pigs could probably live off the chickenshit.

    whatever:
    getting involved in pigfarming in thailand will soon see you in the poorhouse anyway, unless you are feeding them on waste byproducts that you get for free .


    may as well pay for the medicine for the sick buffalo..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawty View Post
    Maybe the second level is for you HL...and you just don't know it yet.
    well nawty ive been in the dog house a few times so i might to get to find out what the pig house is like too .

    scotty

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    whatever:
    getting involved in pigfarming in thailand will soon see you in the poorhouse anyway, unless you are feeding them on waste byproducts that you get for free .


    may as well pay for the medicine for the sick buffalo..........[/quote]

    tsicar the brother in law has kept pigs for quite a while now but he is too busy with other things so we have sort of inherited the old pig house and the rice mill, so i think that the idea is to feed the pigs mostly on the rice husks with added feed.
    god knows where she got the idea of the dual storey/purpose shed as i have never seen one myself .

    i think that she is going to do the structure in concrete then use bamboo and matting for roof etc to see if the idea is ok,
    i will have to get her to do a rough drawing to see if it makes sense to me

    i guess we can always use it as a store if things dont pan out


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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    whatever:
    getting involved in pigfarming in thailand will soon see you in the poorhouse anyway, unless you are feeding them on waste byproducts that you get for free .


    may as well pay for the medicine for the sick buffalo..........
    tsicar the brother in law has kept pigs for quite a while now but he is too busy with other things so we have sort of inherited the old pig house and the rice mill, so i think that the idea is to feed the pigs mostly on the rice husks with added feed.
    god knows where she got the idea of the dual storey/purpose shed as i have never seen one myself .

    i think that she is going to do the structure in concrete then use bamboo and matting for roof etc to see if the idea is ok,
    i will have to get her to do a rough drawing to see if it makes sense to me

    i guess we can always use it as a store if things dont pan out


    scotty[/quote]

    if you have the rice mill working and free byproduct it can work.
    you need to study up on nutritional requirements for pigs, and just how far the byproduct will go to ensure your pigs will grow out profitably.
    do NOT make the mistakes i made when i started the catfish thing,
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    assuming that the "experienced" thais had the slightest clue about how to raise fish, poultry, cattle or pigs.

    many people make the mistake of thinking that experience counts for anything at all.
    this is only true if one is willing to learn by experience, and move ahead, but in thailand it simply means that they have made the same mistakes for many years, learned nothing by it, and passed on their ignorance from generation to generation
    get onto the internet and study how it works, and you may have a chance!
    good luck.

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    tsicar wrote "many people make the mistake of thinking that experience counts for anything at all.
    this is only true if one is willing to learn by experience, and move ahead, but in thailand it simply means that they have made the same mistakes for many years, learned nothing by it, and passed on their ignorance from generation to generation
    get onto the internet and study how it works, and you may have a chance!
    good luck. "

    sage advice indeed tsicar, hope mrs scotty takes heed of the likes of it but being thai will probably listen to other thais whether they know what they are talking about or not (learned by first hand experience) rather than a mere farang who has studied up on it ..

    all i will say that it is mrs scottys project and i will play it by ear when she gets round to things, she is not afraid of hard work so that is in her favour,

    we have just bought 10 rai of land with a good supply of water, so what kind of things would be best growing for feeding the pigs ?.
    i remember here in scotland years ago pig farmers used to go round the hotels restaurants taking away the slops to boilup to feed them on but i guess here in thailand that would already be sorted.

    scotty

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    Getting slops from restaurants and hotels is too time consuming.

    Find your local Lao Khao makers and ask to buy their waste rice mash.

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