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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    Anyway, apparently he spent an entire afternoon counting the planks, measuring the lengths etc. He then told Joy that he thought it was a fair deal.
    yes, that is how to do it!
    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk
    In this scenario as long as i has said plans, and matched a house based on pillar numbers and general structure i could mesh two houses into 1??? __________________
    of course, you are only buying the old houses for the wood, you are not going to reerect the same thing

    a house has several main component parts, like pillars, beams, floorboards etc etc

    it may be better buying one or two old houses then designing your new house based on what wood you then have

    you will always need a bit more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    of course, you are only buying the old houses for the wood, you are not going to reerect the same thing
    Which is, incidentally, what we're going to do.

    The house above will be rebuilt 4m from the 1st. house. There'll be a connecting bit made of concrete that will house a downstairs bathroom / shower toilet, 4 x 2m with another one on top to service the first floor areas.

    We think.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    Anyway, apparently he spent an entire afternoon counting the planks, measuring the lengths etc. He then told Joy that he thought it was a fair deal.
    yes, that is how to do it!
    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk
    In this scenario as long as i has said plans, and matched a house based on pillar numbers and general structure i could mesh two houses into 1??? __________________
    of course, you are only buying the old houses for the wood, you are not going to reerect the same thing

    a house has several main component parts, like pillars, beams, floorboards etc etc

    it may be better buying one or two old houses then designing your new house based on what wood you then have

    you will always need a bit more!
    My father in law has a good stockpile of window frames and doors as well as large old teak floor and decked planks, as well as more ornamental features such as galae etc.

    But as for main components i get what your saying, and this would make sense for what we want.

    Are their specialists in this type of design for more traditional wood houses(in Chiangmai area), or could any tom dick and harry architect supplement this collating of wood into a house to be proud of???
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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    of course, you are only buying the old houses for the wood, you are not going to reerect the same thing
    Which is, incidentally, what we're going to do.

    The house above will be rebuilt 4m from the 1st. house. There'll be a connecting bit made of concrete that will house a downstairs bathroom / shower toilet, 4 x 2m with another one on top to service the first floor areas.

    We think.........
    Will you keep the concrete oh naturel or paint it white, or similar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk
    Will you keep the concrete oh naturel or paint it white, or similar?
    That's the big question.

    Originally we were going to do an extension with concrete etc.

    I wasn't happy with the way it would look (realistically though I couldn't give a toss) Wood to concrete, difficult to make pretty.

    Anyway, when the place above became available it seemed a solution.\

    The place we bought is 2 story very traditional all wood. See thread.

    Very steep roof.

    The add on place will have a new roof matching the angles of house 1 but probably not wooden shingles. I'll be happy if the colour matches.

    The connecting bit will be concrete and brick, but with very big windows. We'll use surplass timber to try and meld the connection.

    Under house number 2 (above) they'll be a large open plan kitchen/dining/drinking area. We hope to make this as open as possible. Mossi screens, little glass, little brick. All opening out onto the garden and the mountains beyond.

    In theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk
    Will you keep the concrete oh naturel or paint it white, or similar?
    That's the big question.

    Originally we were going to do an extension with concrete etc.

    I wasn't happy with the way it would look (realistically though I couldn't give a toss) Wood to concrete, difficult to make pretty.

    Anyway, when the place above became available it seemed a solution.\

    The place we bought is 2 story very traditional all wood. See thread.

    Very steep roof.

    The add on place will have a new roof matching the angles of house 1 but probably not wooden shingles. I'll be happy if the colour matches.

    The connecting bit will be concrete and brick, but with very big windows. We'll use surplass timber to try and meld the connection.

    Under house number 2 (above) they'll be a large open plan kitchen/dining/drinking area. We hope to make this as open as possible. Mossi screens, little glass, little brick. All opening out onto the garden and the mountains beyond.

    In theory.

    Nice! I think concrete and wood can work here are 2 example of howit can and cannot guess which one i think works.....?






    ..........Its so hard to choose?

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    FMD they're both horrible.

    Matchboxes.

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    If you're stuck with the materials and techniques typically available in rural Thailand, I'm not sure how well modernist-type boxes are going to turn out; I think the crisp, clinical, machine-like finish might be a little bit elusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk
    Are their specialists in this type of design for more traditional wood houses(in Chiangmai area), or could any tom dick and harry architect supplement this collating of wood into a house to be proud of???
    There are quite a few carpenters that can put together a nice house

    If you only need certain parts for your house (as your FIL has a lot already) you can go to a reclamation woodyard

    there are a couple around CM and lots further up the road at Baan Thi, Lamphun area

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    If you're stuck with the materials and techniques typically available in rural Thailand, I'm not sure how well modernist-type boxes are going to turn out; I think the crisp, clinical, machine-like finish might be a little bit elusive.
    Rural, I'm in Chiangmai my fellow, 2nd biggest city in Thailand and all that. Ive seen it about, but this was just a bit of fun for me and janda though it seems from his response maybe only fun for me!

    Im sticking with the wood, brick and maybe, just maybe cob/ adobe approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk
    Im sticking with the wood, brick and maybe, just maybe cob/ adobe approach.
    Wood's good.

    Bit of brick and concrete is ok as long as it blends in.

    IMHO wood, open air, terracotta tiles and wood.

    And beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk
    Are their specialists in this type of design for more traditional wood houses(in Chiangmai area), or could any tom dick and harry architect supplement this collating of wood into a house to be proud of???
    There are quite a few carpenters that can put together a nice house

    If you only need certain parts for your house (as your FIL has a lot already) you can go to a reclamation woodyard

    there are a couple around CM and lots further up the road at Baan Thi, Lamphun area

    He has a lot of older interesting pieces but he's in good ol bangkok so maybe too far to transport and less problematic.

    Your add on in wood in the city looks pretty good is this a hillview purchase done in this way??? I like it a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk
    Your add on in wood in the city looks pretty good is this a hillview purchase done in this way??? I like it a lot.
    no, there was a wooden house on the plot already, although the foundations were useless

    the wood quality was so-so but we managed to use some of it and needed to buy some more

    we have a stack of unused wood now waiting for the right projects - like stairs to the pool, cupboards, etc etc

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    This house i believe works out at 20,000 badt per sqm thats for a complete build with windows, doors, electrics, plumbing in and bath warez. To me this seems a little high and i think i might try to copy this general design and buy a collection of houses as my budget is closer to 1.4 million for the first house, which i hope to get the same or more by this method within this initial budget.

    thanks for all your comments, if there are any more please keep them coming as it all helps.
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    I think that there is only 74 m2 of livable space taking out the terrace, and of course the underneath, so ideally for a smaller footprint i would prefer to pay the cap of my budget and not more like the 1.9 million badt asking price from the company. Am i being a tight wad maybe but i know there is a better deal for someone who will take the time to look around, and that is what i will do.

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    Ben, you should be able to build a house for B10,000 a sqm easily

    Less if you get local builders and buy the materials and project manage it yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    The Midget says we'd be looking at around 40k for an old wooden house around here.
    Sounds about right, depending on the size of course.
    Just the normal sized Isaani house (6x12m?)

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    How many poles is the normal measurement

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Ben, you should be able to build a house for B10,000 a sqm easily

    Less if you get local builders and buy the materials and project manage it yourself
    Sorry, are you talking about concrete or wood? I presume concrete which might not be ideal for reasons below;

    The land was purchased at a steal price and we want to place wood houses on it, so as not to have a permanent structure, this is so we can sell the land in 5-10 years time as an investment. This also means that the investment in a collection of nice teak houses can come with us when we move, if all else fails we all like teak houses and it will be a great place to live and for my son to grow up in!

    I have contacted a local Chiangmai middleman/dealer of old teak houses and barns and he has sent me some pics and prices, but whilst i am interested in one of his traditional rice barns (no nail construction -might tell you how old) i havent yet seen a house ive been happy with. But am hopeful to have something found within my budget when im back getting my hands dirty looking.

    will try to post some pics if i can.......

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