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    My girl's family is having a dispute about the boundary of her land with her neighbor who is also her uncle-in-law. It seems there is a rock that the guy keeps moving. Anyone have experience with determining land boundaries here. Back home we have someone survey the land and have it documented. Do they use GPS here? They are telling me they already had someone survey the land and have some sort of documentation about the boundary? My thinking is they need to have the information registered at the ampur so they don't lose it.
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    The "rock" is a piece of concrete with a number on it, about 25 cms long and 10cms across, this is put in by the land office, it costs 3,500baht to get the land office surveyors to come out and redo the land survey, once they have done it stick a great big non moveable concrete post there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    The "rock" is a piece of concrete with a number on it, about 25 cms long and 10cms across, this is put in by the land office,
    Correct.
    I have a couple of spare ones I'm not using

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    The "rock" is a piece of concrete with a number on it, about 25 cms long and 10cms across, this is put in by the land office, it costs 3,500baht to get the land office surveyors to come out and redo the land survey, once they have done it stick a great big non moveable concrete post there.
    Actually the "rock" is indeed a piece of concrete but it's usually used to hit hard the back of the head of the person you can't agree with.

    Don't know much about the rest of Thailand but that's our way where I live.

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    Set out a site in Phuket a couple of years ago and the 'rock ' they use here is a cylindrical concrete thing about 30 cm long and 20cm dia.
    It has the registered number cast into the top.
    There is no re-bar in them so they are nearly aways bloody broken off !
    You have to measure the plot yourself and dig where you think the stump is - this MUST be done in the presence of the owner of the adjoining plot !

    when you find it you then have to clear all the undergrowth to find the bit with the number on!!
    stick it back on with Araldite and then drive a length of blue water pipe around it - use that as a 'core' for a larger pipe and fill the space between them with rebar and concrete.
    the owner of the adjoning plot then goes to the Or Bor Tor and gets the man to have a look and papers are signed - you can then proceed to start construction - What a pantomime - this plot had 8 markers and only one was still complete - so before we could start work we were already 5 weeks behind schedule !
    But - WTF - this is Thailand !

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    if you have a dispute with a neighbour about boundaries, then you can get the Land Office to send out a surveyor to recheck. As DD said, it will cost a bit

    My neighbour decided that our wall was in the incorrect position so called them out. They resurveyed and found he was right. Unfortunately for him, the wall should have been about 50cm into his land!! If I want to move the wall, that would block access for his truck and also male it very difficult for anyone to get in the rooms downstairs

    so he is being nice to us....POWER
    I have reported your post

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    This is an LRO official installing a marker during a survey



    Follow them like hawks, take lots of pictures and ask questions all the time.
    Everyone can be bribed so let them know you are watching and recording.

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    Get it surveyed, and put up a good fence.

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    Visit your local land office......"krom teedin"

    They will come out and do the re-survey, don't know for how much in your area.

    The last time when my family did ours over dispute with neighbour, we had to wait approx 2.5 weeks.

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    Thank you all for your input. I'm not crazy about having a small "rock" put in place to mark a boundary. A good fence being put in at the time of survey is the best option since the other landowner is trying to move the "rock" and gain a little ground. He's a member of the family and is still trying to steal from them. Amazing Thailand.

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    IF you are going to build a wall, get a truckload of cement, sand and bricks and just move the "rock" a couple of meters on to his property and pretend to start building in the next couple of days. He will go to land office. If he does not get in contact with the land office move it again a couple of meters and start building but only up to the point where your girl think her land finishes. For sure you will get reaction from him and than you can splitt the cost of the survey with him. Case closed.

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    The photo Thetyim has posted above is from the survey of our Land, Thetyim was kind enough to do exactly what he suggests and go with my wife to watch the procedure like a hawk, take photos and ask question.

    If you look at the photo you'll see the maker (Thai name - Lak Tee) is being placed directly on the centerline of our neighbour's wall - Our fence post is to the right (inside our boundary).

    There is an upside to this - half the neighbour's wall is on our land - he can't repair or paint it without our permission to gain access - meanwhile we can, if we want, paint his wall whatever colour we like - He has effectively built us a wall that we can do with as we please.

    A point about the Lak Tee is that even if it is moved, the survey will still record the exact location - so in the OP's case, the Lak Tee might have been moved but the Survey will relocate it exactly where it should be.

    Bht35000 for a survey and to get rid of the dispute is cheap!

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    35,000 for a survey??? I think I paid around 4000. Several years ago, but still... Hope you mean 3500.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wimpy
    I think I paid around 4000
    3 years ago cost me 7,000 but needed the "express" service option. 1 day turn around

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    Yes sorry, Bht3500

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    just a small important point, when u build , your building line is along your side of the chanoot, not along the centre of the chanoot, ie in effect there is 300 mil between your wall and the nieghbours, ishh.

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