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    Boon Mee's Wall

    I know, I know, how many more of these poxy Wall Construction threads are gonna get thrown up here? Well, since this is my wall and there are a few things different I'm doing that I haven't seen before (or missed), here goes another Wall thread.

    The perimeter wall will be some 400 lineal meters in total length and 2 meters tall. Got a local contractor to agree to 630 baht per meter labor only for the construction and rendering one side. With material thrown in, I'll be lucky to do the project for anything under 1.9K Baht per meter. Early days yet...



    The above and below shots show a bunch of size 3 & 4 Hun rebar made up by the crew and staged for the bottom and columns of the post holes.



    Brief explanation: The property is old rice paddy land with many trucks of dirt brought in over the past 5 years - pretty firm now but I went with quart-sized beer bottles buried upside down under the rebar at the bottom of the post holes. My contractor told me it's a good trick to do in this situation.

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    If you don't make those pictures bigger I'am gonna red you !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    If you don't make those pictures bigger I'am gonna red you !!
    Ot Thon! Patience! I've got some kind of 'problem' here with the software and I'm working on it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    The perimeter wall will be some 400 lineal meters in total length and 2 meters tall. Got a local contractor to agree to 630 baht per meter labor only for the construction and rendering one side. With material thrown in, I'll be lucky to do the project for anything under 1.9K Baht per meter. Early days yet...
    Material cost should only be about another 800 Bht per meter, sounds like you are getting conned big time if your materials are leaning towards 1200 - 1300, as your OP suggests. Also, I would consider having both sides rendered, it should only be another B100 per meter in labour costs.


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    How much land are you building around, about 6 rai?

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    it has been common practice for many yeaqrs, that a young man should piss up a wall on his way home from the pub on a saturday night.

    This seems as good an opportunity as any.

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    Boonmee..You are a poor excuse for a right-wing-neo-con-georgebush-believing eejit, however I'm interested in, and wish well those who are involved in building stuff here. A wall, a house, whatever. Good luck in your endeavor. If I may add, you might want to incorporate into your design a wee space that would remain undisclosed, wherein you could meet regularly with Dink Cheney and plan world insignificance. Short of that, if budget is of some concern, you might just meet him in some public toilet, where hand jobs are free and denial is Republican.

    Good luck on the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    How much land are you building around, about 6 rai?
    5 Rai and that's enough

    Noodles- I'm buying the materials, not the contractor. He's getting 630 baht per met only.
    Doing my sums, I really don't think I'll get all the material for another 800 baht per met but we'll see. Anyhow, here's another shot of the beer bottle thing. I've never seen it done on any of these Thai construction forums as yet. Seems like a good idea to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    it has been common practice for many yeaqrs, that a young man should piss up a wall on his way home from the pub on a saturday night.

    This seems as good an opportunity as any.
    Closest pub is like 15 km away but I expect the local soi dogs will have a go on it...

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    Here's another technique I've not seen before. Instead of using form wood around the rebar which is a little 'peang', we're using old cans picked up for pennies to enclose the cement at the base of the columns.



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    Looking good so far. Do you plan to have metal parts on top?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Anyhow, here's another shot of the beer bottle thing.
    Is that just to keep the reo up?

    or am I missing something?

    Having looked again I see it's not.

    So what are the beer bottles for?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Anyhow, here's another shot of the beer bottle thing.
    Is that just to keep the reo up?

    or am I missing something?

    Having looked again I see it's not.

    So what are the beer bottles for?

    Loombucket: I may do some well-placed wire along the soi side but undecided right now.

    The beer bottles absorb ground fluxuations during the rainy season when the water table rises - allows the columns to 'float' as I understand the concept - reduced cracking / seperation. I've taken a look at other walls this guy has done in the area and they are tight / strong. Taking his word that the beer bottle trick is a good one plus, they are cheap. I've been adding a few of my own to the project as we go along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    The beer bottles absorb ground fluxuations during the rainy season when the water table rises - allows the columns to 'float' as I understand the concept - reduced cracking / seperation. I've taken a look at other walls this guy has done in the area and they are tight / strong. Taking his word that the beer bottle trick is a good one plus, they are cheap. I've been adding a few of my own to the project as we go along.
    OK, thanks. I'm still confused but that's par for the course. I'm sure it all makes sense.

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    Seems like an expensive project. Barbed wire would serve the same purpose for a fraction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Seems like an expensive project. Barbed wire would serve the same purpose for a fraction.
    Problem is the existing barbed wire fence was not keeping the soi dogs out of the yard nor the snakes. A wall may retard the snakes and for sure keep the dogs out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    I'll be lucky to do the project for anything under 1.9K Baht per meter
    A Thai builder friend just finished a 2m x 300m wall. 1,500 baht per meter, with both sides rendered.

    Good luck. Keep the pics coming.

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    ^
    Cheers Norton. I'm out of town at the moment and can't post pictures for another week or so but my wife tells me that 3K blocks arrived on site today and her supplier is charging 3 baht 80 stang per block. Does that figure sound 'average'?

    I'll get a better feel for the exact price per running meter this project is going to cost soon. Will probably render both sides as well. On either side of the pedestrian / vehicle gate(s) I'm doing something a little different than the standard block. Will post a pic or two of that...

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    3.5baht in Pattaya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    3 baht 80 stang per block
    Closer to 4 baht in Roiet.

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    i am a building engineer and never heard of anything like the bottles under the conkrete before ,just dont understand the reasoning for it but if it works great

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony wall
    just dont understand the reasoning for it but if it works great

    Hmm, me too,

    as in I don't understand the reasoning.

    I'm fascinated to hear said reasoning though.

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    Well, as I understand it, the reasoning is due to the type of soil I'm building on. It's old rice paddy with fill and the hydrodynamics of bottles with trapped air will allow the columns / footings to 'float' when the water table rises during the rainy season. I'll ask the 'chan' more specifically what he attributes the addition of the bottles to in terms of stability when I get back in a week or so.

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    Interesting.

    How can a few inverted Chang bottles "float" a large concrete slab?

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    ^^LOL, that could never happen.

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