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    Need Structural Engineer

    Looking to find a licensed Structural Engineer to prepare structure drawings to complete the house plans (foundation, structure & roof structure). any pointers appreciated.

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    Go to your local planning office, plenty there always looking for an extra bit of work.

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    Structural Engineer

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Go to your local planning office, plenty there always looking for an extra bit of work.

    already been there, done that but thanks for the reply.
    I need an engineer with a bit of enthusiasm and pride in their work, unlike gov't engineers that I've known. I'm not looking for the cheapest or the best.
    If possible, through this forum I may get lucky with an email address for a qualified structural engineer. ok if he does not speak English.

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    You might be better off looking for an architect first, structural engineers are more interested in the integrity of a building not how it looks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    You might be better off looking for an architect first, structural engineers are more interested in the integrity of a building not how it looks.
    thanks again, but I am an Architect and need a Structural Engineer to complete my plans with their signature on the structure drawings.

    The enthusiasm and pride I mentioned had to do with preparing accurate plans and not over-built like government engineers design/prepare structural drawings. I can do the structural drawings but can't sign them and don't really want to prepare them either. I was/am using the services of a local gov't engineer but he's slow, not accurate and I have to spend too much time either fixing the plans or waiting longer until he does.
    Last edited by Tomesarn; 13-11-2009 at 11:40 AM.

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    Where in Isaan are you located?

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    Where in Isaan are you located?
    my location isn't really important as 99% of the work I do is through email & phone so the engineer can be located anywhere.

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    Had a friend use these guys. Good but a bit pricey IMO. I believe they have an office in Khonkean. Send inquirey to them.

    Thai House Plans

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    Are you looking only for the thai engineers?

    If not...
    Our firm is outside thailand but we must do our own structural drawings, otherwise is a no go for us. All with the US-professional licensed stamp.
    via email is no problem, but the hard copy will be thru Fedex/Ups, bcoz of the fresh stamped.

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    Will need the drawings in Thai if approval is required by local government.

    Reason I asked where the house is to be built, is if in a small village, no one bothers with having local government sign off. But obviously the build drawings do need a structural analysis even if no approvals expected.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    Structural Engineer

    mooncake: stamped & signed plans from the U.S. aren't any good for approval in Thailand not to mention the higher costs.

    Norton: you're correct. the finished plans are all in Thai with metric dimensions
    and regardless of where you're building, the plans need structural drawings unless you're building a very small house. Most of the plans I do are for areas that require properly prepared & certified plans. and thai-land-house.com has a good reputation but also outsource their structural plans/requirements. also, for design & finished plans they are quite reasonable if you consider how easy it is to communicate with them and their response time is very good also.

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    no problem then
    Just thought you have some friends in the high places that can work it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by mooncake View Post
    no problem then
    Just thought you have some friends in the high places that can work it out
    to begin with, getting them done from the states will result in English not to mention Imperial dimensions. 2nd...There are Thai standards for foundations, support columns, beams, spans between beams, etc., that western engineers aren't knowledgeable of..... more trouble and expense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomesarn
    ok if he does not speak English.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomesarn
    how easy it is to communicate with them
    Contradiction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomesarn
    ok if he does not speak English.
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    how easy it is to communicate with them
    Contradiction?

    what contradiction?
    the engineer I'm looking for doesn't need to speak english because I communicate in Thai quite well.
    Thai-land-house is easy to communicate with because several of the people there speak excellent english with western degrees...........rough night?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomesarn
    I can prepare the structural drawings but can't sign them and don't really want to. I was/am using the services of a local gov't engineer but he's slow, not accurate and I have to spend too much time either fixing the plans or waiting longer until he does.
    some confusion here, for me

    if you prepare the drawings and all you need is a signature, where is the problem?

    any engineer in Thailand would happily sign with just a quick once over, it seems to me. Accuracy and plan fixing don't come into it.

    unless your plans are useless or totally dangerous?
    I have reported your post

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomesarn
    I can prepare the structural drawings but can't sign them and don't really want to. I was/am using the services of a local gov't engineer but he's slow, not accurate and I have to spend too much time either fixing the plans or waiting longer until he does.
    some confusion here, for me

    if you prepare the drawings and all you need is a signature, where is the problem?

    any engineer in Thailand would happily sign with just a quick once over, it seems to me. Accuracy and plan fixing don't come into it.

    unless your plans are useless or totally dangerous?
    ok. I'll try and make it more clear. I need a structural engineer to prepare the structural drawings for plans that are nearly complete. I'm not a structural engineer and some plans require more knowledge and input rather than basic structural drawings. If it's a fairly basic house/plan then yes, I can prepare the structural drawings but if you read my post, I said I don't want to. I don't have the time nor do I have the expertise to prepare detailed, structural drawings. Most of the design/plans I do are for houses in excesss of several million baht, so the plans need accuracy & professionalism.

    Any structural engineer won't sign his name to any plan unless it meets specific standards as he is responsible for the structure if there are problems later on.

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    Sorry dude, but in reality there aint any structual engineers worth a damn here in Thailand. Good luck with your adventure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomesarn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Where in Isaan are you located?
    my location isn't really important as 99% of the work I do is through email & phone so the engineer can be located anywhere.
    smell a rat in the rank

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    Quote Originally Posted by giggs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomesarn View Post
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    Where in Isaan are you located?
    my location isn't really important as 99% of the work I do is through email & phone so the engineer can be located anywhere.
    smell a rat in the rank

    just thinking the same thing but as my last couple of posts on here have been, well, a little too honest, i was trying to stay calm. anyway. here here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    You might be better off looking for an architect first,
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomesarn
    thanks again, but I am an Architect and need a Structural Engineer to complete my plans with their signature on the structure drawings.
    well, you may try talking to a fellow architect; they will obviously know structural engineers they have worked with

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    I know of a Thai 'structural engineer' who seemed to be more of a shop-fitter than anything else. As Hillbilly said;

    Quote Originally Posted by hillbilly
    in reality there aint any structual engineers worth a damn here in Thailand
    And that could be said for 99.9% of any so-called engineer here. Fuck knows how they can go and work in places like Australia. Unless of course, the Aussie 'engineers' are just as useless. Oh, hang on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Unless of course, the Aussie 'engineers' are just as useless.
    Oh, hang on...
    Bloodlines Marmers..
    And looking at all the chavs coming here I think its time for ol Britania to start shipping again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    Bloodlines Marmers.. And looking at all the chavs coming here I think its time for ol Britania to start shipping again.
    I think the problem is due to the crap that was shipped there from the UK.

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    and we can,t thank you soap dodgers enough for that..filtered out all the useful folks to the land of wonder and left the less wanted up north.. happy happy, we just got to fine tune the borders now and all will be good

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