transporting second hand wood from one province to another

**Bung** · 07-08-2006, 07:32 PM

Any one know if it is possible to do this?

I have found a wood house for sale in another changwat that I would like to dismantle and transport to my home for future construction projects.

I am worried about the cops hassling us but my wife say's it won't be a problem as it is second hand wood.

She is famous for being completely and expensively wrong in the past though!

**dirtydog** · 07-08-2006, 07:36 PM

Try and get a letter from the police station nearest to where you are getting the wood from.

**Thetyim** · 07-08-2006, 07:45 PM

It most certainly is a problem and a big problem at that, if you are caught.

The local police station will not be able to help you.
You must get permission from the 'Forest Police'
I think the timbers will have to be marked before you demolish the old house.

I can show you two carparks full of vehicles that have been confiscated for moving wood illegally.

**aging one** · 07-08-2006, 07:48 PM

But what is old? My guess is there is a difference between wood and timber. Dont do shit until you have it sussed out.

**Thetyim** · 07-08-2006, 08:36 PM

Old or new it makes no difference
You cannot move it without a permit

You can only move a finished product like a table or a bed.

**Spin** · 07-08-2006, 08:53 PM

well you learn something new every day on here.

**Marmite the Dog** · 07-08-2006, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by Thetyim

You can only move a finished product like a table or a bed.

Can you move the whole house then?

**Bung** · 07-08-2006, 09:40 PM

Thanks, I had a feeling that it would be a problem, I always wondered why everyone hadn't done it as it is a cheap way to get beautiful wood.

I got hassled by the cops with just a bed on the back of the pickup which I bought in another town.

I may look into the forestry guy's but it will take a lot of work, maybe palm greasing as well. Pretty interesting all the same....

Another case of too good to be true.....

**RandomChances** · 07-08-2006, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Old or new it makes no difference You cannot move it without a permit You can only move a finished product like a table or a bed.

I beg to differ Mr Thetyim, you cant move finnished products without the propper paper either (can't remember what it's called) To do it leagaly you will need some form of paper. Fresh cut wood you need the forestry commision type thing, but I'd sugest the first place to go would be your local Ampour and ask there. They may be able to sort something out or at least tell you where to go

**Bung** · 07-08-2006, 10:01 PM

It's bit crazy, like a lot of things here.

the people selling it need to build another house single story as their mother had an accident and is paralized. Why should it matter what happens to that house? I would be helping them out and they want a concrete house now anyway.

the mrs reckons because the uncle that showed us it is well connected it will be alright, but you guys are right, it will be a matter of seeing the amphur, forrestry guy's, police etc and endless hours of talking, driving around and meetings with me sitting around like a twat wondering why I bothered.

**RandomChances** · 07-08-2006, 10:16 PM

It should'nt be that hard to do. I would of thought the uncle should of know this, mabye he can sort out some paperwork. Where are you planing on moving it from/to, depending on where it is (well if it's not going to a big city or BKK) any decent lorry drive should know the back roads to avoid the police checks

**Bung** · 08-08-2006, 08:03 AM

I want to take it from Loei to Petchabun, only about 100 km's.

If the uncle say's it can be done it should be alright, it is his truck we would be using to move it and he wouldn't want to lose it!

I think rolling into BKK with a truck full of wood would raise more eyebrows.

I'm going back this weekend with my BIL builder to get him to look at it and will see what they say.

**RandomChances** · 08-08-2006, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Bung

I want to take it from Loei to Petchabun, only about 100 km's.

Yor only just up the road from me then....well sort of depending on wether your north or south Petchabun

**Bung** · 08-08-2006, 07:22 PM

I'm just North of Petchabun town!

**RandomChances** · 08-08-2006, 07:33 PM

I"m probably about an hour south of you. Nakhon Sawan, Tak Fa. If your going up from BKK and use the no 11 road (just past Singburi) you probably go past my place. Pop it for a beer some time

Dean · 08-08-2006, 09:00 PM

I bought two old teak houses about 100 Kms outside of Chiang Mai and had it transported to my site just outside of Bosong. I was back in the states when the wood was tranported but I know that cost of the first house (which was much larger) was 550,000 baht. 100,000 Baht was used to pay the police in the region of the old house (it came out of the 550,000 baht). A friend of mine in Bosong is a policeman and went to help pick up the teak wood but he couldn't talk the local police out of the payment (so much for police courtesy). The policeman said that the fact that it was old wood made no difference. On another note, I buy new teak doors to ship to the U.S. to sell. This is a local operation, about 20 kms from Bosong. I don't ask where he gets his teak wood but I do know the doors have to be picked up at night, when there is no chance od a police check point and the doors can't be seen in the dark. I was told about 6 months ago, the police made a visit to his shop and demanded 10,000,000 baht or they would take his teak doors. They ended up taking the doors. What I'm wondering is what the police then do with the doors (I'm assuming that they sell them but i've never seen a police store with confiscated thing for sale, like the prisons have with prison made goods/furniture)?

**Thetyim** · 08-08-2006, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by RandomChances

I beg to differ Mr Thetyim, you cant move finished products without the proper paper either

Yes, you are correct RC
But I was assuming that you would have a shop receipt and the Police around here do accept that.
Sung Men (10km from Phrae) is a town full of teak furniture and peolpe come up from Bangers to buy, load up the car and drive back .
Providing it looks like for personal use then the shop receipt is OK

**Thetyim** · 08-08-2006, 10:28 PM

I have just come across this advert if anyone needs some teak.
It's in Chiang Mai, I think
"Looking for old teak wood or old teak rice barns for make your building please call us 06-9111471"

I am in no way connected to this, just passing it on.

**DrAndy** · 12-11-2006, 02:59 PM

Just updating this thread

have recently bought a wooden house, demolished and moved it

the seller kindly arranged all the permits needed

it was not difficult and the guys came from the council and actually made sure the wood went where we said it would

they counted the pieces and did not need any bribing (although it may have happened when I was not looking)

**Little Chuchok** · 12-11-2006, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Yes, you are correct RC
Sung Men (10km from Phrae) is a town full of teak furniture and peolpe come up from Bangers to buy, load up the car and drive back .

what is the furniture like in sung men? good enough to export?

**NickA** · 12-11-2006, 04:45 PM

In my wife's home up in Surin there is plenty of old junk wood lying around that I would like to bring back to Bangkok and use my magnificent wood skills to make into wonderful things for my garden - do I need a permit to do this, or is a permit only for certain types of wood etc....

Also, does the amount of wood make any difference? I mean would the police be bothered doing anything about someone with a couple of manky planks in a rucksack??

**Thetyim** · 12-11-2006, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

what is the furniture like in sung men? good enough to export?

Some of it is top quality and good enough for export.

**DrAndy** · 16-11-2006, 09:56 PM

OK so today we went up to Chang Dao to see a wonderful house all of teak, and fell in love with the wood

after some negotiating, we agreed a price which seemed a bit expensive, but the wood was all A1 and also had 12 poles about 40cm across, 3 metres long. And lots of large planks and extra pieces of heavy wood, as well as a fine floor

B1.2 million for a heap of wood essentially. Then the owner told us he would have to pay the police in four provinces to get the wood to us, besides the trucks and the digger to remove the poles, leaving him with less than 1 million

SO LOTS OF CORRUPTION INVOLVED, SADLY

but eventually we will have a nice house or two

Dean · 16-11-2006, 10:14 PM

If yo are not dismantling the house ourself, I would suggest throughtly spraying the house with water or wait until a day or two of downpours. Old wood is dry and brittle and does crack easily when removed. I had many a piece of teak that had to be glued back together when intalled at my house. Wet teak is more pliable and won't crack as easily. Also, concerning the police, at least in the C.M. area, they don't work at night, so to pick up the teak doors that I had made, they were picked up at 10-11:00 at night and transported back to my house.

**Bung** · 17-11-2006, 07:43 AM

Dr Andy,

Keep us informed on how you go, I am very interesred in buying an old house for the wood.

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