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    Pole homes

    Has anybody built, seen or heard of homes like the ones in the link being built in LOS.


    Pole Frame Houses

    Kit Homes, Prefab Homes, Steel Kit Homes Australia, Eco Kit Homes

    We may have finally found a bit of land and I like the idea of putting something like this up. Great views of the mountains so I want lots of deck.

    Cheers
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    Isnít these pole frame houses the as post and beam done in Thailand with concrete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKKBILL
    Isn’t these pole frame houses the as post and beam done in Thailand with concrete?
    Similar in a way but in the NT they're steel and colorbond.

    I just wondered if anyone had seen, or built in that way.

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    Can't edid post yet so will try again.
    Isnít this pole frame house the same as post and beam done in Thailand with concrete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKKBILL View Post
    Can't edid post yet so will try again.
    Isnít this pole frame house the same as post and beam done in Thailand with concrete?
    yes the theory is the same, but the homes have a very unique appearance, not oftern seen in thailand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splitlid
    yes the theory is the same, but the homes have a very unique appearance, not oftern seen in thailand.
    Quite.

    I've lived in this kind of thing in remote communities in the NT and really enjoyed them.

    Cool in the heat and practical in the wet. I appreciate that the Thai version, with a concrete/brick base and wood above is similar but I wonder if steel/colorbond might not work as well.

    The land we're looking at is only 3/4 rai but slopes down quite steeply to the paddy fields. Fantastic views of the mountains beyond the paddy fields and a clear view to the Laos mountains behind.

    A pole home would work, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    Has anybody built, seen or heard of homes like the ones in the link being built in LOS
    Many like your first link. Not many like the second. Not quite like a pole house but for a nice property with view, this may be of interest.

    http://teakdoor.com/the-teakdoor-lou...he-breeze.html (Mental break? Shooting the breeze)

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    Yes Norton, I saw that. Good stuff. I'm not sure I like the bricked in bits though. What I liked about pole homes was the open airiness of it all. Kinda floating........

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    With some minor changes it could easily be modified to look like a pole home.

    My place has somewhat the same pole look but more enclosed. From a practical point most all Thai homes are built using poles (columns) so the only difference I see is rather than enclosing the columns, a "pole house" leaves them exposed.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    My place has somewhat the same pole look but more enclosed. From a practical point most all Thai homes are built using poles (columns) so the only difference I see is rather than enclosing the columns, a "pole house" leaves them exposed.
    Good stuff.

    Question; steel or concrete? Cost vs durability etc.

    I hope to post some photos of the piece of land tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    Question; steel or concrete? Cost vs durability etc.
    Concrete. Cheaper, more durable and less maintenance in humid/wet climate.

    Can make the poles round, square or as I have, square with beveled edges that resemble railroad ties. Or whatever you Aussies call em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    I hope to post some photos of the piece of land tomorrow.
    Is it the piece over looking the river?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Concrete. Cheaper, more durable and less maintenance in humid/wet climate. Can make the poles round, square or as I have, square with be
    Ok, sounds good. I'll need to research strength etc. Do you have any pics of your place on here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post

    I hope to post some photos of the piece of land tomorrow.
    ummmmmm....any chance of using your land for the design competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Is it the piece over looking the river?
    LOL Unfortunately not. The old dear won't sell or die. That's awfull I know but there you go.

    No it's about 5 km from the river, a small plot, 3/4 Rai as I said, but with a really nice outlook. 60,000 bht. Can't complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splitlid
    ummmmmm....any chance of using your land for the design competition.
    Bloody oath. could do. But don't you want a design for your plot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by splitlid
    ummmmmm....any chance of using your land for the design competition.
    Bloody oath. could do. But don't you want a design for your plot?

    hahahha no, i think yours would be perfect and would allow you to design something as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splitlid
    hahahha no, i think yours would be perfect and would allow you to design something as well.
    OK Joy is meeting with the owner this evening. It being LOS it could still all fall through, but anyway. If all's well I'll get some photos and post 'em tomorrow.

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    Jandajoy,

    I' ve built a hybrid timber pole and plastered straw-bale home set on a steep slope back in Oz.

    My brief was I wanted an energy efficient comfortable place , a design set in tune with the local conditions and had to make the mrs happy and have something Thai about it. Not forgetting to take in some pretty decent views along the way

    Seemed pretty whacky in concept but it has come out to work reasonably well, with the usual list of " in hindsight stuff".

    I will try and dig out some info on pole (timber) designs if u wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deepee
    I will try and dig out some info on pole (timber) designs if u wish.
    I'd appreciate that. Cheers.

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    Jandajoy,

    I can see a numer of issues re steel framed construction on a steep slope, obviously the logistics and costs.Forget painted steel, only use hot dipped galvanised in the tropics and note most steel tube is not galved on the inside!
    Lightning strikes are something I would like to know more about when steel framing is used.Steel tends to "talk a lot" with changes in temperatue too.

    Concrete would be cheaper as it can be mixed and bucketed around the site into all sorts of awkward places as only the Thais know to well how to do so.
    Concrete is durable but inflexable and any structural cracking can be a nightmare, after all the stuff weighs bloody tons and it always seems happier when it's heading off downhill.

    Timber can also be costly ,especially the more sort after durable varieties.It needs on going maintenance but its biggest plus is it's flexability and you can play around with it adding bits on or taking bits off with simple tools.
    Termites like timber and thats another important issue too.

    see the following re timber construction , there are sections re pole construction
    Timber.Org.Au
    and there is a good booklet titled " An introduction to the design and construction of pole frame houses" published by the Forest Industries Assoc. of Aust.

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    I've just finished withe architect, and over teh alst two days have met with several builders getting quotes. Common thread in all the conversations
    "Steel is too expensive as a building material" I wanted a steel framed (post & beam) house myself.

    Concrete is cheap there are planty of folks with concrete expertise, steel fitup requires a higher skillset. and so on and so on. I wold prefer it above concrete except for all those reasons.
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    What would be the difference in price, roughly?

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    This is all great stuff.

    THANKS.

    Concrete certainly seems the way to go. Timber for esthetics's.

    FF I'd love to know what your architect came up with. What did the consultation cost and were you impressed with him?

    Good advice, deepee. Thanks.

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    The architect charged by the sq meter. this he figured to be 314 sq M. he must have counted every balcony, porch and the carport. he also added in some fees fro approval, etc but we still had to go and get some kind of stamp at the government building. total fees were 37k from him and a couple hundred from land office.

    It's a nice place with plenty of open space up and down stairs. We had him change the roof line making it a tad steeper with open-ended roof as opposed to the hip roof he originally designed after we made final payment and accepted the drawings. although I think he may have been a tad enthusiastic in adding up the area for his fee, I am satisfied with it he has also helped us in locating builders he has worked with and some he hasn't.

    When (if) things get going I'll post some pics and maybe a floor plan. we have teh land, the ballpark prices seem to be all over the map. solid bids wil lbegin to trickle in next week and I might post thread about that process, given time.

    Quote Originally Posted by jizzybloke
    What would be the difference in price, roughly?
    I allowed myself to be talked out of it without getting exact figures. The repeated emphasis on he word "Paeng" indicated it would be a large difference. I'll ask a general percent range on our next meeting though.

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