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    here are some older elevations; front and right. The roof angle is increased to 38 degrees from 30 and the front no longer has the hip but is open with vents under the peak the same goes for the right elevation.

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    floor plans are on the other computer (I think) he sent a 3d model as well in Sketch up I could probably pull some views off that the downstairs is basically one large room 7.5 x 11 m the kitchen is separated by a counter and upper the stairs are 1.5 m wide I though this a tad large but thinking about moving my heavy teak wardrobes, bed and desks up the stairs I thought what the hell.

    At the prices we are beign quoted and every contractor giveng us a 6 - 7 month completion time I am nto sure when I'll go forward with this. Also the purchase will increase our monthly living expenses by about 10k. We own the land outright with chanote and the back has expressed a willingness to go full cost of the build. (they ain;t seen the estimates yet )
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    So let me get this right....

    You'd bought the land.

    You identified the architect.

    He came round and you both went to work.

    After a few days he billed you for around 37-38 k baht.

    Did you work frome pre-existing plans? Or did you give him your ideas and he went to work?

    The reason I ask is that a mate of mine got bought some land. He then went offshore and left it to his wife. She selected a house from a book and it all went kinda wrong.

    What I'm looking for is an architect I can sit down with, a pile of paper and a few pencils and chuck some ideas around. I'd then expect the architect to go away and formalise the ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    an architect I can sit down with, a pile of paper and a few pencils and chuck some ideas around.
    This is what we did. The plan is basically my design with his take on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by friscofrankie
    This is what we did. The plan is basically my design with his take on it.
    That's great thanks. Would you recommend this bloke or is it too early to say. Oh, and did he speak English?

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    bye the way, I like the dude in the fur coat on the balcony.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    Would you recommend this bloke
    Yes.


    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    did he speak English?
    no

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    Thanks FF
    Quote Originally Posted by friscofrankie
    I allowed myself to be talked out of it without getting exact figures. The repeated emphasis on he word "Paeng" indicated it would be a large difference. I'll ask a general percent range on our next meeting though.
    Drawings look good and it's a nice looking place!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jizzybloke
    "Paeng"
    Wots that mean?

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    แพง
    paeng expensive ; dear ; high-priced ; costly ; high


    try here JJ,

    Thai to English dictionary & transliteration

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    Quote Originally Posted by jizzybloke
    แพง paeng expensive ; dear ; high-priced ; costly ; high try here JJ, Thai to English dictionary & transliteration
    Yup, I know. Thanks, mate. Just being lazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    Wots that mean?
    The way it was spoken? "FUCKIN EXPENSIVE!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    He then went offshore and left it to his wife.
    This approach will ensure all goes to shit no matter where the design comes from.

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    Looks good Frankie. Why the change from 30 to 38 degrees on the roof?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    What I'm looking for is an architect I can sit down with, a pile of paper and a few pencils and chuck some ideas around.
    The need for an "architect" may be driven more by requirement drawings must be approved by local gov. In your case, being in the sticks, this is not likely an issue. A couple of builders here in Roiet will sit down with you and do just what you want to develop a plan. If you opt not to use them to build, they typically charge 10,000 - 15,000 baht for the CAD drawings which result.

    Always best to start with a relatively detailed floor plan and work changes from there.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Why the change from 30 to 38 degrees on the roof?
    A. More traditional look.
    B. Cooler house.

    The architect drew in a bit of curve to the fascia as well. There won;t be and of those fancy crossed decorations at the peaks or curlicues at the ends but the steeper roof and open ends give eh house exactly the modern/traditional effect I wanted.

    We just came from our receiving our first bid. This builder, on the first meeting, estimated 2.8 - 2.9 Mil for the build. I was a bit taken aback by that, but I was pretty sure he would come in cheaper after going over the plans; it is a very open and simple design. Although the architect listed the thing at 314 sq. m. the actual floor plan covers only about 220 - 240. First bid: 1.8 mil This is more like I expected, but does not include the perimeter wall (he quoted 1.5 - 1.2k/m). Will go over the details of his bid this evening. We have three more bids coming in over the next two weeks. I already like this guy, doesn't speak a word of English, but he looks like he spends time on the job.

    Two of he other companies I met with, I was in a room with between two and four office jockeys. You gotta think they are just overhead and their salaries will have to come out of my pocket. These companies made a big deal about office appearances and attention to details such as is my water glass full and do not impress me as builders. This guy and the last one I met, appeared like hands on job superintendents.

    Although price is important, getting a builder you can communicate with and have confidence in is equally important. When the bids are in I'll probably go with my gut.

    The contractors bids will not cover site improvements such as raising he land (after the build). The architect provided us with a full presentation for the bank, with an estimate for the build at about 2.5 mil (including perimeter wall and site improvement). So, we'll present that. We have chanote on the land, there is power and public water directly across the soi from us. The land is valued at 1.2 mil. The bank has been making very strong positive sounds, guess we'll find out inthe nextr few weeks .
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    Quote Originally Posted by friscofrankie
    The architect provided us with a full presentation for the bank, with an estimate for the build at about 2.5 mil (including perimeter wall and site improvement). So, we'll present that.
    This price is what I would have guessed given your description of flooring, finish and the like. You can cut a lot if you look at reducing cost of roof tile, flooring, trim and the like.

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    Already workin' on it. No fuckin way are we going to put that much money into a concrete box with curtains.

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    I think I've got your book. When you come and get it we can talk building.

    And drink small Leos perfectly presented in home made coolers. Lots of them.

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