Wood....would you if you could ?

[Nawty]

I found some kinda nice little wooden posts yesterday.

They are redwood, so will have a very nice colour to them when polished and strong.

Problem is....well not a problem in itself, but the price is.....they are 12m long and around 40/50cm square and asking price was 30k per post.

Now while i consider this high, some farang factor may be involved, but some Thais were purchasing some big posts for lotsa dosh also.

What would you consider a fair price and should i buy and store them for later....

[Thetyim]

they are 12m long and around 40/50cm square

I presume at that length it is made from several pieces.

[splitlid]

ive brought 150mm x 150mm in 3.2m lengths before and they were about 3000 baht each.getting straight ones was a challange.

yours sound like an ok price for such large timbers.
the question is, what would you use them for?
50cms is huge.

[jarne]

crazy prices

[WhiteLotusLane]

They're square?? 40-50 cm? Is that circumference? I don't get it. For large timber posts you'd want them round right?

Splitlid: is 150x150mm a common size? Is that big enough to raise a whole house on, or perhaps just for a roof? How far would you need to space those apart?

[splitlid]

150mm is standard column size in concrete for most single story houses.
the maximum span i have usesd them for is about 3.5m but this was due to design features not due to restrains due to load.in the picture they are not only architectural but also support the 1.8m overhang for the verandah area.
for a small house like the one you wish to build then yes 150 x 150 would be sufficient. personally i would use concrete for the structural work and then use the timber columns around areas which people wil see.

[WhiteLotusLane]

Thanks! I'm open to concrete.. I think it will depend on how much re-usable wood I can source. If that turns out to be a lot, then more stuff will be wood. If not at all, then it'll be mostly concrete, except possibly for the veranda/deck roof posts and the deck itself of course.

[Smithson]

I was quoted 20k per foot for 6 large second hand poles (this was the price for all poles, not 20k per foot of each pole).

I think it came to 160k for all 6, didn't ask the exact length, was still in shock from the price. Timber is expensive, but looks nice.

[crippen]

I found some kinda nice little wooden posts yesterday.

They are redwood, so will have a very nice colour to them when polished and strong.

Problem is....well not a problem in itself, but the price is.....they are 12m long and around 40/50cm square and asking price was 30k per post.

Now while i consider this high, some farang factor may be involved, but some Thais were purchasing some big posts for lotsa dosh also.

What would you consider a fair price and should i buy and store them for later....

Never mind the value 50 by 50 cm by 12metres how are you going to shift them?If that is the size,they could weigh up to a couple of tonnes.

[phunphin]

you should drive out into the country , ask around always timber around but remember it's illegal to have unregistered timber..unless it's part of a structure.

[Rural Surin]

Such myths about qualities of Redwood. Redwoods, and their relatives are sucky woods for foundational contruction, finishing, and even cabinet applications. Soft, sinewy, easy to rot {even treated}......

[WhiteLotusLane]

> I think it came to 160k for all 6, didn't ask the exact length,
> was still in shock from the price.

And rightly so.. 160k should be the price for an entire wooden house, and then a pretty big one at that.

[splitlid]

hey whitelotus,
just thought, 100mm columns are ok also for the verandah area,they may look better for a smaller area, and definately strong enough for just a verandah.
dont forget to get the carpenter to put a chamfer in the wood.as shown.
this is good also for concrete columns, instead of making then square when rendering them, put a chamfer in them to break up the harshness.
course, this doesnt work on every house design.

[Nawty]

The 12m is one full piece, not joined.

Dunno about your redwood RS....but the redwood I have used and seen is very strong and very beautiful when polished up.

I am going to look at these posts again this week after thinking about it and where i can use them. make an offer somewhat below asking for 6 of them and see what happens.

Old wood is expensive here and I guess arguemetally so.

Certainly would be much cheaper to buy a house and dismantle it yourslf, just the logistics of getting a crew to do it, hiring a truck and storing it etc and then making sure there is enough viable good wood in the building to warrant the price.

Then you have to ask.....how often do 12m long redwood logs come around onto the market ?? not that often i would guess.

As for moving them crippen, not a proble, plenty of trucks around here with the crane on the back that they use for moving very large trees. Besides this the seller usually delivers all large woods anyway.

[Nawty]

Well....seems I got the measurements a little wrong the other day.

they are in fact only 35cm square and 13/14 meters long....crikey


we put in an offer for 6 of them.....so see what happens.