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mikehunt · 29-06-2009, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humbert

The worst thing about Thailand is that it has a horrible mixture of the European system & the American system. Essentially, Thailand uses the European system of electricity. Unfortunately, it also uses the awful American colour code, which exists in only a few countries.

You obviously have a lot of expertise in this area. Why is the European colour system better?

I don't have a lot of expertise...I have a huge amount of expertise!!!

It is not about one system being better than the other. It more about which system is more predominant than the other. Also, it is about mixing certain power distribution systems with the Thai system (the Thai system is predominately European & not American).
Everyday, more & more products are imported to this country. This country has no official "electrical import" standard. The internet is the enemy here.
Each item that is NOT manufactured in the USA, may have IEC colours as the active, neutral & earth. Mind you, the USA has adapted to European standards a long time ago.
IEC colours as follows;

1] Protective earth - Green/yellow
2] Equipotential bonding - Green/yellow
3] Neutral - Black or light blue
4] Active - Any colour other than green, yellow,
green/yellow, black or light blue

Please be aware that the USA is not the "be all" & "end all" of everything. In this case, it is the minority. The NEC (National Electrical Code) is testimony to this. It won't be long before the USA must change to Metric as well as adopt a "universal" way of thinking, which includes the electrical world.

baldrick · 02-07-2009, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikehunt

Please be aware that the USA is not the "be all" & "end all" of everything. In this case, it is the minority. The NEC (National Electrical Code) is testimony to this. It won't be long before the USA must change to Metric as well as adopt a "universal" way of thinking, which includes the electrical world.

I know he has flounced - but I only just read this

I wonder if his sweeping statement has taken into account the way the Chinese do their electrical ?
has he with his "huge" amount of experience encountered Chinese electrical installations ?

dirtydog · 14-07-2009, 06:46 PM

I had to do some plumbing work today, one of the jobs was sorting out a water heater, had a quick look at it and there was nothing wrong with it visually so I took it down to the shop to be repaired, turns out one of the circuit boards and the water sensor needed replacing.

So I take it back to the house to refit it, this is a nice water heater by the way, big old 6kw jobby with a nice big red wire, nice big blue wire and a nice big green and yellow wire, go into the bathroom and there is only 2 wires

a blue one and a black one

now logic would dictate that the blue is nuetral and they need to be connected, I was a bit shocked to find it was live, seems Thai logic is slightly different to normal logic, so I had a look in the circuit breaker unit, they had breakers in there with red, white, black and blue wires spurring off of them, the nuetral bar was just as colorful, turns out my wire starts off white coming out the breaker and is then joined to a blue bit of wire for the run, probably best to turn down any electrical jobs on this building

nikitatolstoy · 05-10-2009, 06:03 PM

Nice post with wonderful product description. But I can't trust on these because I am afraid of electric shocks. Thanks for sharing with us.

DrAndy · 05-10-2009, 07:51 PM

yeah, DD knows which side his bread is buttered

the yellow side

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05-10-2009, 06:03 PM	#64 (permalink)
nikitatolstoy Bangkok Last Online: 05-10-2009 06:03 PM Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1	Nice post with wonderful product description. But I can't trust on these because I am afraid of electric shocks. Thanks for sharing with us.

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DrAndy Oh Fuk Last Online: Today 08:14 PM Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: yes Posts: 12,421	yeah, DD knows which side his bread is buttered the yellow side

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