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wanna · 01-05-2009, 12:32 PM

hi

i have done some research on the internet regarding PE (Polyethelene pipe) and PB (Polybutene) pipe on their suitability for use as water supply pipes.

both seem to be suitable for cold water but are not suitable for hot water > 70 degrees celsius. does it mean that for hot water 80-90 degrees i have to use copper or other material?

it would be helpful if i can know the differences between PB (wavin hep2o) and PE in terms of suitability and overall cost of installation for cold water supply.

thanks

DrAndy · 01-05-2009, 03:30 PM

Use the local blue pipes for cold water, they are cheap and reliable

The PB stuff is expensive and will corrode from chemicals in the water supply if used for hot water

so use copper which is not too expensive now; the main problem with copper is that many fitters want to charge per metre for fitting. This can work out expensive. About B400 per m for 15mm pipe is the lowest I can find

dirtydog · 01-05-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DrAndy

About B400 per m for 15mm pipe is the lowest I can find

Thats fitted price?

Easiest is to buy the copper fitments you need, then have a chat with one of your local air con fitters and see if they will do the welds and fitting.

blackgang · 01-05-2009, 05:19 PM

Damn, it is no problem doing sweat joints, fact it is rather enjoyable.

DrAndy · 01-05-2009, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrAndy

About B400 per m for 15mm pipe is the lowest I can find

Thats fitted price?

Easiest is to buy the copper fitments you need, then have a chat with one of your local air con fitters and see if they will do the welds and fitting.

yes, all fitted and tested

and expensive

SkitteryJim · 07-05-2009, 07:34 PM

Ain't compression joints ok for hot water?

Loy Toy · 07-05-2009, 07:46 PM

As I mainly fit Solar Heating panels to my houses I of course use copper pipes.

Honestly you could cook and egg in the hot water I get from my Solar Panels but with regard to plastic pipe I wouldn't use it for hot water normally although pipes such as PP start to really soften (plasticize) at about 160 degrees celcius.

Better to stick with good old copper pipes mate IMO.

Thetyim · 07-05-2009, 08:03 PM

We have a hot water system in our house and had to use galvanised steel pipes.
Been fitted for a few years and no problems yet.

Copper fitings and fitters were not available where we live

01-05-2009, 12:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
wanna Koh Lanta Last Online: 04-07-2009 03:12 PM Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 107	comparison between pe and pb pipes for hot water hi i have done some research on the internet regarding PE (Polyethelene pipe) and PB (Polybutene) pipe on their suitability for use as water supply pipes. both seem to be suitable for cold water but are not suitable for hot water > 70 degrees celsius. does it mean that for hot water 80-90 degrees i have to use copper or other material? it would be helpful if i can know the differences between PB (wavin hep2o) and PE in terms of suitability and overall cost of installation for cold water supply. thanks

01-05-2009, 03:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
DrAndy Oh Fuk Last Online: Today 01:30 AM Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: yes Posts: 12,803	Use the local blue pipes for cold water, they are cheap and reliable The PB stuff is expensive and will corrode from chemicals in the water supply if used for hot water so use copper which is not too expensive now; the main problem with copper is that many fitters want to charge per metre for fitting. This can work out expensive. About B400 per m for 15mm pipe is the lowest I can find __________________ keep 'em coming

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blackgang Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Today 12:22 PM Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phetchabun city Posts: 13,365	Damn, it is no problem doing sweat joints, fact it is rather enjoyable.

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Loy Toy On a walkabout Last Online: Today 12:48 PM Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,354	As I mainly fit Solar Heating panels to my houses I of course use copper pipes. Honestly you could cook and egg in the hot water I get from my Solar Panels but with regard to plastic pipe I wouldn't use it for hot water normally although pipes such as PP start to really soften (plasticize) at about 160 degrees celcius. Better to stick with good old copper pipes mate IMO.

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Thetyim ssshhhhh Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mousehole Posts: 14,632	We have a hot water system in our house and had to use galvanised steel pipes. Been fitted for a few years and no problems yet. Copper fitings and fitters were not available where we live

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