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Construction in Thailand Is building in Thailand as bad as it seems? Can properties really be built and fitted out to European standards? Would you like to Build your own house in Phuket, or a swimming pool in Bangkok? Solar water heating in Pattaya? Or maybe you want to build a resort or guesthouse on Koh Samui? If you want to build a luxury house in Thailand then this is the forum for you.

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Old 12-08-2009, 12:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello to All! I have just found this website while searching for Tung Oil in Thailand to find out if there are any supplier of the Tung. I am happy to inform you that we, "THORZEN" have a nursary/Farm cultivating the Tung Trees and we are in the R & D process of production of Tung Oil. We are producing the Oil in smal quantity for now, but will be able to launch our own of product soon. So if any of you would liek to have some, please do not hesitiate to let us know. The Tung is a good example to help us with Global Warming and Climate Change and we would like to welcome anyone who have a couple of Rai of un-used land or you can plant them in your yard of your house as they will glow to 15-20 meters and bear flowers and fruits within 2-3 years. Their sweet smelling flowers is a beauty, with yellow stripes on white petels. Look forward to hear from anyone who will be interested to joim us in our quest. Have a Good Day!
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Has anyone seen either linseed oil or tung oil for sale in Thailand? None of the hardware shops I've been to have even heard of it and although I've found some dealers in Bangkok, their minimum order is 1 ton and there doesn't seem to be anything between that and minute bottles of linseed oil in art supply shops.
Hello Dan, we have some tung oil if you are still interested. I noticed that you have started your project some months back. Sorry I haev only found this website yesterday.
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^ I'm interested to hear more about Tung oil and sustainable timber finishes. I'm doing some small building with bamboo and have been told Tung oil is a suitable finish. Do you have info on citrus thinners etc?

Also, another posted said there were problems with Tung oil and mould in the tropics. Is this true? There is very little knowledge/info on Tung, so anything you could provide would be interesting.
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Hi Thorzen - thanks for your post. I managed to find linseed oil in Chiang Mai but I'll certainly be in touch if I need more.
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your first link seems broken DF

your second is in Thai; this is an English language forum
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[quote=DrAndy;1135397]your first link seems broken DF

your second is in Thai; this is an English language forum[/quot


Just click on ENGLISH
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Old 14-08-2009, 09:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
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your first link seems broken DF

your second is in Thai; this is an English language forum

Sorry about that, corrected it! Thank you!
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^Oh! being as I don't open much of his mindless tripe out in the open forum is that what he said?? Well now there's a good example of why I don't waste my time..Good to see at least there's a few people here who can figure out how to use a simple language button though Johpam...

Dr Andy was obviously being his usual twat in posting that especially since Thai is commonly used on this forum he must be confused with TV again in his demented state of mind...He's been a real stalker lately too..

I don't know who played with the links either but that's not the links I put up as the ones I put up had only 1 product of specific reference on each and one was in English..
Someone never fails to take a pot shot though even when trying to help out, it's such a neighborly place.. just makes you want to take care of business sometimes...

here's what should have been on the link..


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Dr Andy was obviously being his usual twat in posting that especially since Thai is commonly used on this forum he must be confused with TV again in his demented state of mind...He's been a real stalker lately too..
Insults are not really needed in this area of the board

I merely reported what I found

another member was more helpful
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I don't know who played with the links either but that's not the links I put up as the ones I put up had only 1 product of specific reference on each and one was in English.. Someone never fails to take a pot shot though even when trying to help out, it's such a neighborly place..
essentailly you are blaming someone else for your mistake, normal for you
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Would be good to hear more info from someone who knows about Tung oil and it's availability in LOS, another poster mentioned ppl were having problems with mold/mildew when using it, this is surprising considering what I've read. Seems to be quite a bit better than linseed oil for sealing.
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Would be good to hear more info from someone who knows about Tung oil and it's availability in LOS, another poster mentioned ppl were having problems with mold/mildew when using it, this is surprising considering what I've read. Seems to be quite a bit better than linseed oil for sealing.
Don't know about LOS, but we got some in Thailand if your are intersted, let me know. Didn't have the problem you said about the mold/mildew you mentioned. But you need to mix everything to the right %.
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How to Use a TUNG OIL Finish

A pure or polymerized tung oil finish is easy to use and will produce beautiful results on any type of wood. Usually applied to unfinished wood, but can be used over oil base stain.
Existing finishes must be removed, as this is a penetrating oil. It needs to penetrate deeply into the wood fibers and pores.


Preparation


New wood needs to sanded smooth prior to application.
This finish will not build a film like varnish, so most of the sanding should be done before any tung oil finish is applied. If the wood is ruff start with medium grit sand paper and then finish with a fine grit, always sand in the direction of the grain.
After sanding, all repairs can be done. Any holes or cracks can be filled with a wood filler. If a wood stain is to be used choose a stainable filler.
For wood without any stain choose a colored wood filler that approximately matches the woods color. Do a final sanding if necessary and remove all dust with tack rags.


Staining

Any oil base wood stain can be applied. A tung oil finish has an amber color that will change or enhance the stain color. Choose traditional colors that will be subtle and still enhance the wood grain.
When in doubt apply the stain and finish to a scrap piece of similar wood before staining.


Applying Tung Oil

A tung oil finish can be applied pure or thinned up to 50% with mineral spirits or turpentine. Thinning the first coat will increase penetration, decrease the drying time and produce better results.
A typical application is by hand rubbing. Dip a soft cloth or rag into the finish and rub onto the wood. Keep applying until the wood is saturated. Use a natural bristle brush for hard to reach areas. Allow each coat to remain on the surface for 20-30 minutes. Wipe all areas to remove any excess. Check for drips or runs after another few minutes.
Drying is a slow process and will occur between 24-48 hours. This depends on the porosity of the wood and whether you thinned the finish. It will take 3-4 coats to achieve a waterproof surface. You can lightly sand or buff with extra fine steel wool between coats.
For exterior use, brushing will be the best method for application. The first application should be thinned to increase penetration. Pick up all drips and runs after 30 minutes. Apply 4-6 coats on new, very porous woods like cedar.


Maintenance

Maintenance is very easy. Light scratches can be gone with a light sanding and the addition of another coat of tung oil finish. Interior wood surfaces might need another coat every 2-4 years and exterior wood 1-2 years depending on exposure to sun light and wood species.
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I was actually addressing the DF person Thorzen

did you have a similar problem!?
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I was actually addressing the DF person Thorzen

did you have a similar problem!?
Didn't know it till you told me. Thanks!
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Good info Thor.

You mentioned the flowers of the trees, are these flowers productive for bees ??

Do they flower all year, or periodically ?

It would be nice if you could provide any relative info on what a person could expect to get as income per rai for the trees. As in anything, nobody is going to do it unless it is worthwhile.
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The Tung Oil is rather expensive because they only produce fruits and flowers once a year, with each plant taking 3 years to bear fruit, with full production when they reach the age of 5, depending on the number of trees for each rai, to give each tree room to grow for maximum sunlight.

The cultivation for young plants are less than 50% from the seeds so as the oil production is also less than 50% from the seeds. For production of the OIL, their nuts containing the oil has a hard husk which is harder than the Palm or Jatropha, therefore the production of the OIL is costly as the machine have to be specially designed or imported. The production of Tung Oil is a long and tedious one, with +4 kgs to 1 litre. You can imagine how much time and seeds is needed to obtain the quantity.
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Understand that, but what is needed to know is how much you would be paying someone as a farmer, for their seeds.

I understand you may not know this as just starting out, but you need to know it so people can make a decision to grow it or not and if it is worth their while.

Also need to know how many kilos on average you can expect from well cared for trees per rai etc. Nobody will start to grow them and think it is ok to wait 5 years before they find out what their income will be.

Also can the trees be used for wood ?? If so, what kind of wood is it, sort, hard, are people using it for anything currently ? What life span does the tree have etc.

I am interested in this, but not as a farmer and its probable meagre returns, but for the whole package and having a friend highly involved in forestry in Oz.
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check out our website: Tung Oil Tree (µé¹¹éÓÁѹµØ§) for more info please, we are offering 5-7baht ofr a kg of seed, shelled so that we can use the seeds right after we receive them.

Let me know if you need more info.
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