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DrAndy

dunno, why? any pics of the palaces?

as said, that is high end, even including expensive imported fittings

DrAndy

no, architects plans do not have to state which tiles, which kitchen etc, unless you have no idea of what you want and no real design knowledge

mine, and many others, have plans to build the house, then choose what to fit when the time comes...a different approach

Humbert

Architects always incorporate the preferences of the owner. If the interior finishes and fittings are on the plans the results will be more integrated. In kitchens it is especially important to know where electrical will be located so
that revisions do not have to be made later.

DrAndy

if you specify a cheap cooker, or a top of the range hob, the electrics will be the in same place. same same everything else

The search for tiles, bathrooms, kitchens etc can be done whilst the building is going on. It is pointless specifying everything before you have a house to put it in, unless you are not involved with the building.
revisions are always made later!!

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Humbert

The reason that there are so many interior abortions out there is because the interior design is not conceived and thought through at the time of the architectural design. You don't have to take my word for it but I have seen the results countless times in my career. I know residential design tends to be more on the fly here in Thailand and a solution can usually be ground out. Contractor's love change orders.

lob

Originally Posted by georgehoward1960
I have built two homes here a few years back where the cost per sqm was 47,5000 baht. Why ?

love this bloke. at the risk of becoming the biulders bully boy . mate you talk bollocks. stop the bragging, a lot of us have been there done it, and long before u knew what bullshit was. dd , your too kind to the prick and i feel it went over his head. mr howard where exactly do you want the comma in the 475000 figure. you would last a couple of days , if that, working for me, thai are thai but a lieing falang with , or who claims an education, as soon as you open your gob. fuck off to TV, f== prick.

DrAndy

possibly true Humbert; for me, the reason that the designs were abortions was because the designer was useless, at whatever time!

for instance, you can have any house, already built a few years, a good designer can come in and totally remodel the kitchen, bathroom whatever and make a great design of it.

as said previously, with a new build the important thing is to know where the electrics, drains etc should go, the rest can follow later. That saves time and money.

hillbilly

This is so true. Many times people will want a fancy home built and not think ahead. Where does the sofa go? What about the TV? Where should I hang my towel. The list goes on and on.

When the owners of the home realize their mistakes, only two things can happen. Either the price will go up or one has to live with the choice made. Trust me, I have had to pay for my shortcomings regarding construction.

Hence the inflated price per sq. meter.

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DrAndy

no need to be rude Lob, you can say the same thing politely

Marmite the Dog

Fuuny you should say that, as every architect I know who has worked in Thailand has said that Thai architects are only good for interior design. I guess they're not even good for that either?

Humbert

There are some very fine Thai architects practicing in in Thailand. There are also some very good Thai architects practicing abroad. It is illegal for a farang to practice architecture in Thailand. If a foreign architect works on a project in Thailand he must partner up with a Thai architect. The Thai firm becomes the architect of record.
The line is blurry between 'architect' and 'designer'. Often times a designer does the conceptual design because of his visual talents and an architect does the 'design development' because of his technical skills at structure.

DrAndy

some are, some aren't

Marmite the Dog

True, but sometimes things need to be done properly, so they have no choice. Ie, the train systems and a the larger towers in Bangkok and Pattaya.

donald36

I think George H is obviosly highly qualified and competent but doesnt have a lot in common with most of us trying to build a house "up country"

cambtek

Crikey-15k to 30k a square metre.
You may have been involved in big building projects,glad that you are not my builder.
Thats about 450 to 900 dollars a square metre isnt it?
I was back in perth recently where building costs have always been cheap and one can still get a double brick and tile house for 500 australian a metre,something shit hot was double.
Here in cambodia I am about to build and I am working on 250 US a square metre but that is on a suspended slab,on the ground probably 200 dollars-real footings,cement columns and single brick with a steel roof and 1500 bucks worth of insulation in the roof and ceiling.

dirtydog

Time to get realistic about how much it costs to build a house in Thailand, I got my monthly email from Sallmanns Thailand today, he has been mentioning this project in Bang Saray for the last few months and at last some of the houses are complete and ready to be sold, now remember this is a housing estate so building is ongoing at present so the prices reflect that they are the prices now, at this time, 10,000baht per square meter build cost, not 47k or any other ridiculous sums some of the idiots have mentioned, here are some pics.







OK I admit there are no 2 person jacuzzis at 120,000baht each, and even if there was that would only bring that 4 sq meter cost upto 40,000baht, the rest of the floor area is the same price, most expensive granite is only 5,000baht per square meter.

From the email.

As promised, I have included some photos of the first of the completed houses at the Gardens at Bang Saray. Obviously, the grass has yet to settle in. However, inside the house is complete and looks great. The rooms are all extremely spacious. The en-suite bathroom to the master bedroom is particularly big. For the price, as I have said repeatedly, it is fantastic value for money. Moreover, there is also a 2 bed, 2 bath design now being built, again on 148 sq wah (592 sq m) plots and these houses will start at only 2.69m Baht. Again it is superb value, particularly when the build quality is taken into account.

Lovely, very spacious 3 bed/bath house on standard 148 sq wah plot in extremely nice gated community in beautiful location in Bang Saray. High quality construction. Big rooms.
Nearly 200 square metres of living space, with an open plan kitchen, plus separate utility room. Change the design to suit yourself. Construction at cost, only 10,000 Baht per square metre.

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Norton

Roof looks like CPAC Monier and floors Granito?

Just finished a 2 story 126 sq meter place for 1.3 million baht inclusive of 15% profit. 10,317 baht per square meter. 10,000 baht is a good benchmark.

Norton

Yep. All these things need to be planned and in the contract or can't be sure what one will get. A little more front end effort sure saves money and conflict with the builder in the end.

dirtydog

2nd story is always more expensive.

Norton

^yep more steel and concrete. The house was built in Isaan so labor a bit less than central Thailand. Still 10,000 to 12,000 baht per square meter a good benchmark.