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    @thehighlander - Have you started building your pool? My pool supplier, PoolMaster is affiliated with Isaan Pools and they do serve the Korat and Buriram area. Most of their supplies and equipments are from Pool Master. High quality and affordable pricing too. You may want to check out their thailandpoolshop website. They're pretty helpful and responsive with my questions about building a swimming pool, etc. Cheers.

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    Can you share more info on how you built it? Materials used? Cost?


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    I have a medium sized (45,000 Ltrs) salt water system pool, cost for chemicals per annum is less than 1,000 Baht, powerbill - no idea!

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    Can anyone bring this up to 2018 prices ? I mean the running costs . Say a pool 6m by 3m .

    I constantly read that it's quite an expense to maintain a pool but different people have different ideas what that means .

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    Regarding costs there are so many variants that a pool can only be costed out when you know exactly the size, what tiles you are using and the pump/ filtration system.

    Also the way it is constructed and by whom is an important consideration.

    I once used an equation of 6,000 baht per square metre but these days I expect 10,000 baht should be the ratio used.

    Regarding energy consumption my pool is 20 metres long and 8 metres wide and my monthly electrical bill was around 2,500 baht.

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    I wasn't thinking of the Construction costs .

    I was meaning annual costs . Power , Chemicals , Servicing , Filtration .
    You certainly would know this stuff , Loy . The ongoing costs.

    Construction ....... well that's a separate story . I may try this guy's work ..........



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    Wasp,
    perhaps you can get some ideas from my thread of an easy and cheap DIY building a swimming pool 12 x 3 m - built 12 years ago, for my swimming every day 1 km in crystal clean water, with a minimum care.
    And that despite of acquiring the water from a strong ironized ground water well - a special easy way how to get it clean. (A swimming pool in Thailand so easy)

    http://teakdoor.com/construction-in-thailand/145600-a-swimming-pool-thailand-so-easy.html



    And herewith a listing of the investment cost I did for a friend here last year, the figures should be still OK, just adjusted as per local conditions, all made by local village workers under my ingenious supervision:


    Backhoe 1/2 day 5,000
    Cement blocks 1,500 @ 6 10,000
    Cement 80 bags @110 10,000
    Sand 2,000
    CPAC for floor 4m3 6,000
    Steel wire 3mm 4,000
    Tiles 110m2 @160 20,000
    Special cement 2,000
    Additive waterproof 1,000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------
    Construction material total 60,000
    workmanshipย 50,000
    ------------------------------------------------
    Construction total 110,000

    Pump 8,000
    Filter 8,000
    Pipes, valves 4,000
    Electrobox 5,000
    Installation 5,000
    ------------------------------------------------
    Equipment total 30,000

    Additional equipment:
    Sucking hose 10m 3,000
    Sucking header + rigid pipe 3,000
    Brush, net 1,000
    ------------
    Equipment total 7.,000

    Swimming pool total 147,000
    ========================


    Consumables for 1 month (not all used every month) :
    copper sulphate 0.5 kg 80
    Chlorine 0.25 kg 40
    SaanSom 1 kg 10
    HCL 1 kg 20
    Soda Fai 10
    Test kit 50
    Electro 1 kW 8h/d 800
    Waterย ย 10 m3 100
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    Consumable 1 month 1,110

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    I can afford this Klondy !!!

    I can afford it !!!!

    But at first I was appalled .
    Being rather stupid I looked at some lines of yours such as ......
    " Cement Blocks 1 500 @ 6 10,000 " ..... and I thought " 610 000 !!!! Just for the blocks !!!! " .

    Quite a relief when I dumbly realised it was 10 000 .

    These figures --- are great . I hate words such as " affordable " " reasonable " " not too bad " .... because " affordable for people like StevefaranghelicopterCinderellamillionaire is not the same as for a crippled wasp . I like numbers . And you supplied numbers .

    I'll now read your Post about building a pool .

    Thank you Klond. From the bottom of my antennae.


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    ^Wasp.
    not everybody will agree with me and be excited by my experience with pool building (surviving 2 earthquakes when the water run over).

    Then, there are different ideas about keeping the water. If people do not listen to "experts" and some forums run mostly by pool shop companies, these companies would close their shops within a month.

    Selling the "healthy" chemicals keep them alive. So, they tell you how high you have to keep the chlorine level to survive in your pool your 15 min. swim, same level as in the public pools where hundreds of strange people come, quite different from your pool with just you (rarely your Thai wife), once you do not invite the village elephant.

    Then to keep the pH exactly, so you have to buy a dosage machines and a measurements showing the chlorine level and pH with 2 digits after coma. Then to calibrate every year, better twice. And they just forget to mention that for drinking water the pH is allowed in range of 6.5 - 9.5.

    And you have to buy a measurement for cyanuric acid and when too high, exchange all your pool water (that I filled in over 4 weeks). And so many other clever advices. And when you read the forums you can see that the most frequent word is "green". However, not green hair (as they will scare you when treat by Copper Sulphate) but green water.

    Treatment against algae by CS has on "disadvantage": the CS is very cheap.

    So, there are so many tricks about "musts" "must nots".

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    You're a wise man Klondy.

    Obviously Epson gets its profits not from the printing machines but from the inks .
    Bill Gates became a billionaire by not making computers but by making the operating systems.
    Gillette became huge not from making razors but from making the blades .
    And I can totally believe what you say about swimming pool companies wanting to scare you into buying unnecessary peripherals .

    I would really like if anyone is reading this thread and wants to say " Don't build a Pool !!! " --- and tell me why .
    Klondy makes the running sound reasonable ..... especially if you ignore the invaluable advice of the Pool companies ( and their obvious interest in scaring tactics ).

    Thank you again Klond .

    With all my feelers .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp;3716195

    I would really like if anyone is reading this thread and wants to say " Don't build a Pool !!! " --- and tell me why .
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    All depends on where you are, and what you want. I built a big house almost ten years ago, and have an extra lot in back, currently used as one of two gardens, that would be perfect for a pool.

    But, I have an Olympic pool in the housing compound and it's about a ten minute walk away. Beautiful pool, well maintained, costs residents $1 a day if you use it. It's generally empty until after 5 PM during the good weather/hot months due to Asian hysterical sun aversion. I thought about building my own, but then decided "Why?" Even abutting the house, I doubt I'd use it more often then I do the community pool.

    On the other hand, if you don't have access to a nearby pool, live in a place with pool-friendly weather much of the year, and really think you would use it a lot, why not?

    You might PM BLD. He built a nice pool in his yard, with BBQ. Got a lot of use, it appeared...at least initially. He might have some insights now that he's had it for a while.

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    We have a pool, I often think why? it is cleaned and maintained daily and very, very rarely used! no sensible offers refused to purchase said pool outright, buyer collects, water included!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    We have a pool, I often think why? it is cleaned and maintained daily and very, very rarely used! no sensible offers refused to purchase said pool outright, buyer collects, water included!
    Some of the houses in the development in which I live have pools....I almost never see any of them in use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Some of the houses in the development in which I live have pools....I almost never see any of them in use.
    Well Davis ...... your situation sounds perfect .
    A communal pool ten minutes walk away . Fabulous . Let someone else do all the maintenance .

    But I have no such luxury unfortunately . There is a pool available about 15 km away .
    By the time you travel back you're as hot and cranky as ever .

    And you're also right about seeing pools that are not used . Sometimes just having the option is enough though.
    If I had a pool it would be the first for many many miles . And I have the pleasant option of cooling off in a pleasant way during my killer afternoon hours . I'm sure I would use it . But so might the local dogs , ants , dust , drunks , lizards , leaves .

    Who's BLD ? Is that Baldrick ? Is there a Thread about his pool ?

    With appreciations .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    We have a pool, I often think why? it is cleaned and maintained daily and very, very rarely used! no sensible offers refused to purchase said pool outright, buyer collects, water included!
    Why do you not use it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp View Post
    Well

    Who's BLD ? Is that Baldrick ? Is there a Thread about his pool ?

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    BLD = BeerLaoDrinker, and yes, he did a thread on construction and subsequent pool party. Construction in Thailand forum. 2015.
    Last edited by Davis Knowlton; 12-02-2018 at 02:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp View Post
    Why do you not use it ?
    "Swimming" in chlorinated water that I know is doing me no good whatsoever is one reason, hard to make time for an activity that you don't particularly enjoy and aint good for you.
    If you want to have somewhere to cool off in the garden and also have as a "feature' I think you would be better off with a largish Jacuzzi, lot easier to maintain and take care off also

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    I still think the pool build was money well spent. In vientiane we use it 10 months of the year. Kids and there friends love it. Mines not huge ( 8x4 ) find it super easy to maintain. Mines a salt water setup you can adjust how much chlorine you want your salt to make. A 20kg bag of salt is 160 baht and i use a digital meter to test the level of salt usually have to add a half bag every 6 weeks or so depending on bather load. I alzo try to maintain my PH at 7.6.and also use a digital meter plus the test kits with drops. Water from my tap seems to be a consistant 7.6 or 7.8 Ph. About once a week i vacuum it and throw in a splash of algaecide for good measure. You will notice an increase in your power bill from running the filter. In my case 4 hrs in the morning and 4 hrs in the avo. My bill went up about $30 a month. Dont be keeniow about your filtration its the key to clean water. Overall i find it quite cheap and hassle free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    We have a pool, I often think why? it is cleaned and maintained daily and very, very rarely used! no sensible offers refused to purchase said pool outright, buyer collects, water included!
    I cannot imagine a life without a (my) swimming pool. After a morning jogging/walk with my dogs swimming some 20 -30 min., the same at the evening after hours. Then, it keeps me cool for a larger portion of evening without a/c.

    But the main reason is the health benefit, sport No. 1 for old people (I hate to be tortured on gym machines).

    Yes, a strongly chlorinated pool water is not very healthy for the swimmers. Especially when swimming in a pool with skimmer(s), i.e. the pool with 4 sides risen (20 - 30cm) above water level. The chlorine vapours are laying on the water surface and unless there is a fresh breeze the disposal of those vapours is only by deep breathing, good for a deep throat

    I chlorinate once a week a spoon of inorganic chlorine (the one without the trichlorisocyanuric acid) dispersed directly in pool, the rate is not quite recognized by a chlorine measurement (if I do check), just for a sake of killing the worst bacteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beerlaodrinker View Post
    I still think the pool build was money well spent. In vientiane we use it 10 months of the year. Kids and there friends love it. Mines not huge ( 8x4 ) find it super easy to maintain. Mines a salt water setup you can adjust how much chlorine you want your salt to make. A 20kg bag of salt is 160 baht and i use a digital meter to test the level of salt usually have to add a half bag every 6 weeks or so depending on bather load. I alzo try to maintain my PH at 7.6.and also use a digital meter plus the test kits with drops. Water from my tap seems to be a consistant 7.6 or 7.8 Ph. About once a week i vacuum it and throw in a splash of algaecide for good measure. You will notice an increase in your power bill from running the filter. In my case 4 hrs in the morning and 4 hrs in the avo. My bill went up about $30 a month. Dont be keeniow about your filtration its the key to clean water. Overall i find it quite cheap and hassle free.
    You're a good man to find this Thread BLD .

    Thank you for the facts . You're very helpful .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    I cannot imagine a life without a (my) swimming pool. After a morning jogging/walk with my dogs swimming some 20 -30 min., the same at the evening after hours. Then, it keeps me cool for a larger portion of evening without a/c.

    But the main reason is the health benefit, sport No. 1 for old people (I hate to be tortured on gym machines).

    Yes, a strongly chlorinated pool water is not very healthy for the swimmers. Especially when swimming in a pool with skimmer(s), i.e. the pool with 4 sides risen (20 - 30cm) above water level. The chlorine vapours are laying on the water surface and unless there is a fresh breeze the disposal of those vapours is only by deep breathing, good for a deep throat

    I chlorinate once a week a spoon of inorganic chlorine (the one without the trichlorisocyanuric acid) dispersed directly in pool, the rate is not quite recognized by a chlorine measurement (if I do check), just for a sake of killing the worst bacteria.

    I appreciate all your info Klond . I do . And I think I'll do it . But people always say there is an inordinate amount of faffing around .
    Nonetheless it's attractive.


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    No worries wasp. For a general idea on how it all goes with the construction jump to page 6 and see my threwd BLD,s swimmingpool build in vientiane. That thread will either make you laugh or cry

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    Quote Originally Posted by beerlaodrinker View Post
    No worries wasp. For a general idea on how it all goes with the construction jump to page 6 and see my threwd BLD,s swimmingpool build in vientiane. That thread will either make you laugh or cry

    I'll save it as a treat for this afternoon .


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    ^It's a great thread. Almost convinced me to put in a pool, even though I don't need one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp View Post
    Nonetheless it's attractive
    Those relatives you have that treat your place as their own would love it, surely.

    That's an excellent thread, Klondyke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beerlaodrinker View Post
    No worries wasp. For a general idea on how it all goes with the construction jump to page 6 and see my threwd BLD,s swimmingpool build in vientiane. That thread will either make you laugh or cry
    Can you give here a link to your thread?
    I remember giving you here once ideas about the cost, similarly I gave to Wasp. Did your build your pool in that range somehow?

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