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    Tire Bale homes

    Anyone have information or build a home in Thailand out of tire bales or rammed-earth-tire-walls as seen here:

    Tire House FAQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by mordred
    Anyone have information or build a home in Thailand out of tire bales or rammed-earth-tire-walls as seen here:
    There's a couple of threads about all that. Do a search you lazy git.

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    Of course, I wouldn't dream of posting without doing a search first. That would be a terrible thing to do. Searching tire bale homes, tire construction, or rammed earth homes gave me nothing.

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    Actually, no one has mentioned using tyres before, but rammed earth & straw bales have been discussed.

    *Note to self - "Read properly before calling someone a git, you git!"

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    Lost in translation maybe : Brits use Tyres - Yanks use Tires

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    I reckon tyres would be better than straw bales or mud over straw. At least there would be a component that the bloody termites couldn't eat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Longprong View Post
    I reckon tyres would be better than straw bales or mud over straw. At least there would be a component that the bloody termites couldn't eat.
    And they burn better when your chip pan sets the place on fire !

    Seriously though there was a good big one on the road from Khartoum airport to town ( in Sudan) made out of aircraft tyres - we had to demolish it as part of a road widening scheme and it was certainly solid and stable !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mordred
    Anyone have information or build a home in Thailand out of tire bales or rammed-earth-tire-walls as seen here:
    There's a couple of threads about all that. Do a search you lazy git.
    Perhaps I should do a search for a definition of a "git"; who knows; maybe I am one.

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    I can just imagine the conversation..

    farang: Honey I'm going to build the walls with old car tyres.
    mai farang: farang bah, im go away from you now, goodbye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happyman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Longprong View Post
    I reckon tyres would be better than straw bales or mud over straw. At least there would be a component that the bloody termites couldn't eat.
    And they burn better when your chip pan sets the place on fire !

    Seriously though there was a good big one on the road from Khartoum airport to town ( in Sudan) made out of aircraft tyres - we had to demolish it as part of a road widening scheme and it was certainly solid and stable !
    From what I understand tire bales or rammed earth building doesn't provide much room for air so you have less chance of fire than framed houses, of course, anything will burn if you get it hot enough. I'm just interested in alternative building ideas to cut cost and reuse materials.
    "he who thinks he knows, does not know; he who thinks he does not know, knows." Lao Tzu

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    Interesting idea, I think these are common in the earth ship designs. A lot of them are built in the desert or colder climates. You would have to design different here due to the heat and high ground water in many areas.

    Recycled materials aren't so cheap over here. Timber is actually more expensive than the new stuff.

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    Hmmm, the prospect of living literally inside a junkyard has never occurred to me.

    Does it come with the smell of brake dust, oil and frayed steel belts?

    Perhaps a hitch and dual wheels might be in order -- and a clever Thai Lay-z-boy crafted from moto tires.

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    Mine wouldn't smell like a junkyard because my sweetheart smells of jasmine. Ahh, Siam.

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    If you're heading down that route, I think adobe or something like light-earth is a better bet. Others here have experimented/are experimenting with bamboo, which might be of interest. Packing tyres is grim work, I'm not sure how easy it would be to get that many tyres, and I think the climate may not be to your advantage (earthships must have enormous thermal mass, which is not great in Thailand). Similarly, since this will be the first time your workers would be doing it, I wouldn't expect their standards to be too high. Similarly with rammed earth - quality is everything with this and since the average Thai builder has a depressing habit of making a fucking pig's ear of the most straightforward task, I think that unless you do all the construction yourself or you know what you're doing and you'll be supervising constantly, rammed earth is a bad, bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan
    Similarly, since this will be the first time your workers would be doing it, I wouldn't expect their standards to be too high. Similarly with rammed earth - quality is everything with this and since the average Thai builder has a depressing habit of making a fucking pig's ear of the most straightforward task,
    There, now that is the best advise you will ever recieve in Thailand and it will hold true to everything you do.
    Stick with concrete and Qcon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    The average Thai builder has a depressing habit of making a fucking pig's ear of the most straightforward task, I think that unless you do all the construction yourself or you know what you're doing and you'll be supervising constantly, rammed earth is a bad, bad idea.
    It's recommend to supervise 90% of the time when Thais using materials they are familiar with, so expecting them to do something different and get it right is a bit much.

    I think the tire bales and recycled materials is really an idea from the West that doesn't really fit here. For sustainable building I'd take a look at traditional Thai methods and see how the can be improved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    If you're heading down that route, I think adobe or something like light-earth is a better bet.............. , rammed earth is a bad, bad idea.
    Dan, interesting to some, adobe is what they used in thailand when filming apocalypse now, 300lb blocks to make up the cambodian ruins. It is something that thai's know a bit about you just need to find out who, finding that out might be hard!

    For instance in and around chiangmai, you will see signs in thai( baan din ) and english for clay house construction, it is becoming more known and used........

    definetely adobe bricks and cob make for an easier building technique as both require little known skill but as someone said alot of supervision!

    There is no reason why you couldnt get them to build the wals out of earth tyres whatever and if they fuck it up then you know to hire someone else and its a great learning curve on something less expensive.....just an idea!

    cant wait to see it?!?!!
    im hot its so hot today.......milk was a bad choice!

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    I reckon tyres would be better than straw bales or mud over straw. At least there would be a component that the bloody termites couldn't eat.
    And they burn better when your chip pan sets the place on fire !

    Seriously though there was a good big one on the road from Khartoum airport to town ( in Sudan) made out of aircraft tyres - we had to demolish it as part of a road widening scheme and it was certainly solid and stable !
    From what I understand tire bales or rammed earth building doesn't provide much room for air so you have less chance of fire than framed houses, of course, anything will burn if you get it hot enough. I'm just interested in alternative building ideas to cut cost and reuse materials.
    Anything will burn or fall down when it gets hot enough, as proved during my youth when another student decided to burn down half the school one evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myajarn
    Anything will burn or fall down when it gets hot enough,
    As was shown in Victoria recently.

    But if I were a man, and needed to build a home with limited funds, I would explore all those possibilities.

    I know a couple in Australia that built their own home using mud bricks. Just one man and one woman,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happyman
    Khartoum airport to town ( in Sudan) made out of aircraft tyres - we had to demolish it as part of a road widening scheme and it was certainly solid and stable !
    When was that? pre or post revolution?

    I'm guessing pre 85.

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    My old Gran used to live in a mud brick house out in the Wimmera area in Western Victoria built by my Grandad.

    Winters were bitterly cold and summers were scorchers.

    There was definately no air-cond back then and temperatures inside were always more bearable than her neighbour's house.

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    Hmm, never seen dirt burn...

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    I think nothing much was spared in the recent bushfires in Aus.

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    Grand Designs this week featured a tyre walled house. I recommend this download as it shows a lot about this type of construction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Longprong View Post
    I reckon tyres would be better than straw bales or mud over straw. At least there would be a component that the bloody termites couldn't eat.
    If anything, nice ceative way to recycle the older tyres. Probably hold up forever.

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