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    something like this, retaining wall raised a little,wall to right separating nextdoor neighbour,am thinking of a glass screen on top of retaining wall and around steps with a gate (this will stop DUGs kids from falling in.)

    will tidy up if this is what your looking for.


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    Thr top of the retaining wall will be even with the ground.
    It may go something like that, espically if building reg's force me to build back from thre river. But I would really like to see the front of the house go straight up from the retaining wall. If you move the stairs over to the right where the property line wall is, this could be accomplished. While you are at it, could you add a small dock. Maybe a property line wall,fence etc. on the other side too, to keep DUGs kids out

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    ok retaining wall same level as ground. no problem
    you need some more convincing about having the house set back from the wall it appears.

    what is your idea or purpose of having it so close?

    if moving the house so close i see the following issues:
    1. building regs.
    2.doors need to be windows,meaning that a bedroom is just a bedroom and not a room which can be opened up in the morning,walk out onto the decking and enjoy a coffee etc.the doors make the room more inviting and homely,windows will make it just a room to sleep in.
    3. if the house is moved forward how will people get from the left to the right of the house.i.e. if someone in bedroom 2 wants to goto the boat, they have to either go upstairs and back down again or through bedroom 1.same as if outside and want to goto toilet. the issues with flow through the house are endless.
    4. moving the house forward may only improve the view slightly, and who will sit in a bedroom looking at a view? youd want to be outside?



    pictured is view from bedroom at average eye level height.
    without the retaining wall reduced.

    comments about these issues are welcome from others.please.

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    and lets not even get onto the construction problems involved with building it so close to the waters edge!!

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    Convinced again
    The walk out looks nice so we will leave it in.
    The reasons I was not really for it was
    I was not sure if I could get around the building reg's.
    There will be a door leading outside the hall at the back of the bedrooms, about half way down the stairs from the road.
    It cuts down on wall space on the inside for furniture.
    The coffee will be made upstairs in the kitchen.
    As for the construction aspect, I thought building on the retaining wall would give the house extra support
    Can we still move the "boat stairs" nearer the other side of the house, as that is where the "side of the house stairs" will be come down.

    If anyone else has any design opinions, I would really like to hear them,

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    Well, I will say one thing. splitlid where were you several years ago when I was scratching house plans in the dirt?

    Excellent job!

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    thanks hillbilly,although I've been in the building trade all my life I have only started designing my own stuff in the last 6 years.I think it's a natural transition for most.all my talent I inherited from my father. who is still a great source of inspiration for me.his done some wonderful stuff,but is more of a traditionalist

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    hi danblack,
    ok have moved steps to the right,lowered retaining wall, put up glass railing on waterfront(not too sure about this, would be better without, i feel).
    also put a wall to left of building, preventing neighbours from looking in, this is obviously repeated on next house making them completely private.

    any pool required? could fit one at end of decking to the right of house.

    oh and about the door you mentioned to the right, could you explain it a bit better please.

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    Looking good. But
    Not too crazy about the glass railing
    Can you move the walls back away from the house about 3-4m That would be about where the property line would be. Walls are actualy kind of ugly, I was thinking of maybe an iron fence with trees and bushes in front for privacy.
    Can you turn the boat stairs around facing the other way, and add a small dock in front, About 1m wide x about 4-5m long, parallel with the wall.
    Hope I am not being too picky
    Love to hear if anyone else has any comments/suggestions

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    Ok Dan - I linked to the wrong image, now I see the correct one.
    Nice work Splitlid!
    I've been working on the floorplans for this house. I've been sending Dan pdf's, but if he agrees, I can send CAD dwgs to you Splitlid, once things are more firm.

    Dan, if you have doors in the bedrooms, you won't need the one on the side. The main reason for having the doors (besides that it's just nice to have access to the outside) is for means of egress in case of a fire, etc and also to be able to move large items into the lower level. This also applies to the builders moving things in and out during construction. I'm working on a plan that does not have spiral stairs as the only way down to the lower level, but doors outside are still nice.

    I'm not familiar with Thai building codes, but stairs should not really be less than 36" wide (re: a note you posted earlier).

    One thing that is nice about the glass railing outside, is that you will probably have the same thing around the stairs on the interior - keeps the space clean and open. Although we could make that a pony wall if you really don't like the glass.

    Splitlid, I love the slatted sunscreen on the sides of the deck - exactly what I was thinking.

    I'll start incorporating these ideas into my dwgs

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    Glad you're aboard
    I am sure it will not be a problem to have the boat stairs 2ft. wide. I don't want to cut too far into the retaining wall
    Instead of a glass railing across the front of the lower deck, how about a thick rope on some short wooden posts.
    If it turns out to be a problem to have a door on the side of the house for the lower floor, we can skip it . but the benefits are not having to go through the bedroom to get to the bathroom or to take laundry in and out

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    Quote Originally Posted by danblack
    I am sure it will not be a problem to have the boat stairs 2ft. wide.
    Depends if you need to take an esky down to the boat or not...

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    oh, I was thinking you meant the stairs down the side of the house. You could actually just have a ladder from the lower deck into the river if you had to - you just have to hop over a little gap to get on the floating dock. Houseboats here in Seattle have docks like that. But stairs are better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bittercabbage View Post
    oh, I was thinking you meant the stairs down the side of the house. You could actually just have a ladder from the lower deck into the river if you had to - you just have to hop over a little gap to get on the floating dock. Houseboats here in Seattle have docks like that. But stairs are better.
    hi bittercabbage,

    welcome to the forum,enjoy, and remember its all in jest
    the issue here i believe is that the river is tidal and therefore could be anything from a 1m-4m drop.

    as marmite said, an esky would be a bitch with a ladder, so real steps needed, the ones i have done are 1 meter which is sufficient.for even marmites eskie full of xxxx. (piss water)

    ps. stairs down side of house are 1.2m.

    and yes i totally agree that a side door is not required and would be difficult to add.due to levels.

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    Thanks for the welcome - your renderings are beautiful!

    The exterior stairs that I originally drew had a landing so that one could get in and out of the lower level without going through the bedrooms. There is a bonus room + laundry there which would make drying clothes outside easier. However my version did not have a lower deck on the river side (just stairs leading to the dock). I'll play around with more interior layouts and see what happens.

    This is fun for me - I've been working on my own and miss the input from others that I used to get at the firm where I used to work. Essential for creative progress!

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    so bittercabbage,
    any update on the drawings your doing for dan?

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    ok have been playing with this all day,
    render time is only about 2.5 mins but the setup is the problem, the idea is to get the render looking just like a man made model.
    the actual model is life size,the table,bottle of water and the surrounding walls and floor are made huge to make the model look small.

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    light inside
    car windows removed

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    what kind of building would this be
    modern house, office???

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    was actually a church, but could be made into a house with a few changes, make the oven a bit smaller for a start

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    Wow!

    Hey Splitlid you have a great talent. We have hand drawn plans for our teeny tiny holiday house. It might be an interesting challenge as it's traditional Thai with changes like larger doorways, bigger-than-planned void in the roof for ventilation etc. Some sort of model would be great. My poor partner just can't envisage it, he has great fears it will look really weird. OMG if I tried to convince the in-laws to accept something like that church-building they would probably have me committed If you have the time I'd love to see a simple model. Do you work off scanned docs?

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    hi Twocam,
    yes scanned drawings are ok, either post them here or send them to my email,or PM, im a little busy at the moment so may take some time, but will definately have a go.

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    ok so work has quietened down at the moment so i can come back to this thread.

    Twocam: your scanned drawings were unfortuneatly unreadable for the detail you required.sorry.

    danblack: i may have another crack with the new drawings bittercabage sent.

    marmite: wheres ya new design you want me to do with the changed roof and extra room?

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    Nice work! I like the touches you add in Photoshop. In our office we use 3D Studio Max and for studies we use Sketch Up and Vectorworks/Renderworks.
    I hope you are being well compensated for your work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splitlid
    marmite: wheres ya new design you want me to do with the changed roof and extra room?
    Ummm....

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