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Construction in Thailand Is building in Thailand as bad as it seems? Can properties really be built and fitted out to European standards? Would you like to Build your own house in Phuket, or a swimming pool in Bangkok? Solar water heating in Pattaya? Or maybe you want to build a resort or guesthouse on Koh Samui? If you want to build a luxury house in Thailand then this is the forum for you.

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Old 29-11-2008, 06:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 09-12-2008, 06:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hmm, you said you were looking for a loan to build. That doesn't sound easy... especially without guarantee, as handsome as you may be !


As everybody knows, this oncoming year also seems to be particularly propitious for milking rich farang tourists who burn with desire to spend their cash in Thailand...


. . . so, I'm curious, found any bank yet ?

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Old 29-11-2008, 09:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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ok will do.....will report the out come!

just thought id post this in light of termite talk:

Homeowners can reduce the risk of termite attack by following the suggestions listed below.


Eliminate wood contact with the ground. Many termite infestations result from structural wood being in direct contact with the soil. Earth-to-wood contact provides termites with easy access to food, moisture, and shelter, as well as direct, hidden entry into the building. Wood siding, latticework, door and window frames and similar wood items should be at least six inches above ground level.
Don't let moisture accumulate near the foundation. Termites are attracted to moisture and are more likely to "zero in" on a structure if the soil next to the foundation is consistently moist. Water should be diverted away from the foundation with properly functioning gutters, downspouts and splash blocks.
Reduce humidity in crawl spaces. Most building codes call for 1 square foot of vent opening per 150 square feet of crawlspace area. For crawlspaces equipped with a polyethylene vapor barrier (see below), the total vent area often can be reduced to 1 square foot per 300 to 500 square feet of crawlspace area. One vent should be within 3 feet of each exterior corner of the building. Vents should be kept free of leaves, dirt, and debris, and should not be obstructed by vegetation.
Never store firewood, lumber or other wood debris against the foundation or inside the crawl space. Firewood, lumber, cardboard boxes, newspapers, and other cellulose materials attract termites and provide a source of food. When stacked against the foundation they offer a hidden path of entry into the structure and allow termites to bypass any termiticide soil barrier which is present.
Use mulch sparingly, especially if you already have termites or other conducive conditions. Many people use landscape mulch for its aesthetic and plant health benefits. Excessive or improper usage, however, can contribute to termite problems. Termites are attracted to mulch primarily because of its moisture-retaining properties, and the insulation it affords against temperature extremes. The mulch itself is of poor nutritional quality to termites and a non-preferred source of food.
and last but not least............................
Consider having the structure treated by a professional pest control firm.

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We've had some promising conversations with Thai Farmers Bank for a construction load (already own the land). Nothing is certain until the cheque is in your hand, but worth a look
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and im very handsome......

that's it ...you've qualified already..
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Thanks shuggy i knew that it would count for something someday..........

I will check out thai farmers bank, may i be forward "more volts" and inquire to know a bit more about your specification???????
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We had some discussions with our bank, they suggested building the first house and getting a structured loan against that, ie as each area comes to completion they would make another payment.
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sorry are you saying that you start to build the house, and then you get loans as you build to complete?????

Or have i missed you completely????
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Aaah this was to build several houses, they poo pooed the idea of a loan against land, think they will forward like 10 percent of the land value if you us the land as security on the loan, whereas it is more like 70 percent of the house value if you have one built already.
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If you are building in C.M, and if you decide to use teak, it will probably be from a teak house that has been dismantled (or you will dismantle it). In that case, the teak wood is fairly old and termites are not much of a problem. You may have to go up to 100 miles to get the teak and have to pay poilce bribes to get it to your location. I ended up buying over 1,000,000 baht in teak for my house about 3 years ago and have had no problems with termites.
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If you are building in C.M, and if you decide to use teak, it will probably be from a teak house that has been dismantled (or you will dismantle it). In that case, the teak wood is fairly old and termites are not much of a problem. You may have to go up to 100 miles to get the teak and have to pay poilce bribes to get it to your location. I ended up buying over 1,000,000 baht in teak for my house about 3 years ago and have had no problems with termites.

Termites are no problem with new teak either Dean

we did a similar thing to build our house, there is even a thread about it

old wood is preferable to new as it will already have matured properly so any shrinkage and warping will be minimal. Mind you, if you use redwood for the roof structure, the workers don't like old wood as it is so hard, but it is much stronger than teak
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But, if one is going to be using a lot of teak in their house, it would be far cheaper to use old reclaimed teak rather than new teak.
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1 million badt seems a lot for teak wood......especially as you say its reclaimed(and supposed to be cheaper)

A new thai teak house costs about 1.4 million!

Anyway thank you for your advice.......

I am however thinking about something a bit more in line with getting wood from felled trees and having a couple of carpenters work on site, can anyone tell me if this is possible from their experience?????

Does anyone know of any other other hardwoods apart from teak?

The reason for the above questions is that i want something similar to oak that i can get made to personal designs on site.......

thanks once again for your insights!
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DR.A when you talk about redwood, are you talking about sappanwood?

If not could you enlighten me, you say this is a hardwood presumably that's stronger than teak?

sorry for my naivety, im trying to get something to replicate oak roof truss joists and frame...........

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DR.A when you talk about redwood, are you talking about sappanwood?

If not could you enlighten me, you say this is a hardwood presumably that's stronger than teak?

sorry for my naivety, im trying to get something to replicate oak roof truss joists and frame...........

The redwood I am talking about is called "mai deng"! it is a fairly common building wood in CM, all woodyards keep it.

As for replicating oak terusses etc, I would use teak as it is easily worked with, similar to new oak, and it does harden with age


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I am however thinking about something a bit more in line with getting wood from felled trees and having a couple of carpenters work on site, can anyone tell me if this is possible from their experience?????
We did this for some of our panelling, not the main structure. We bought teak trunks and had some guys in with portable saws, who sliced it up. There is a government woodyard north of CM, in the Phrao direction, that sells the trunks legally and deliver. Worth a visit! all the wood they have is confiscated, and not too expensive.
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A new thai teak house costs about 1.4 million!
A very small teak house costs that much. Not even 100 sq meters. Teak is expensive as in a sense its finite. There is not enough to go around.
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1.4 million for a 2 bedroom 1 bathroom terrace surround with sala and extra rim detail, of course you can count the bottom space too but what else do you need in a house?????????? Unless you got a big family, that wont leave you alone


Though in saying that most new houses are in fact re-worked and painted old teak pieced together from scraps of others that have gone by the way side, so in fact buying one, or bits and pieces is by far cheaper!!!!!!

But still 1 million badt for wood in my estimation would get me a very very VERY BIG house, good teak and massive timbers, i just dont want to build thai style thats the only snag...............
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But still 1 million badt for wood in my estimation would get me a very very VERY BIG house,
i don't think it would.

i think it would get you a tiny little house with a wooden toilet.

teak is very expensive.

i had initially planned on building with teak.

had to change my mind and build with bricks.

glad i did in the end.
not only a million miles cheaper, but also a lot less crap.
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I would agree with you some people pay more then others, i am fortunate enough to know of a few good stock piles and houses where for 1 million badt i get a very big house!!!!!!!!
However brick doesnt suit the look i want, but i think your house as well as others are great projects, top notch reading ad i bet your glad to be at the end!!!!!???

Teak is expensive is you cross provinces and buy new, if you can salvage locally then its cheap!
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