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    Advice wanted. Potential rebuild.

    So, whilst I was getting rat-assed in Chiang Kong on Saturday afternoon on Vodka from Laos with my mate, some bloke pitched up at our shed and bent Joys ear about a bit of land he wanted to sell.

    Now this isn't a new thing. We often get people turning up, who have had a bad night on the Hi-Lo or what ever and want to sell off something. It's usually their mothers, brothers, uncles friends house. We normally ask them, politely, to leave.

    This was a bit different, or so it seems. Got chanut, the lot. The guys son is working in BKK and ain't never coming back. Place has been empty for a long long time.

    Now, my situation is simple. We moved here with a view to buy, but I will not be rushed.
    I don't have much money but have enough.
    I'm not going to be building/buying some palace.
    The idea has always been to find an old Thai place, with a bit of wood involved and slowly but surely do it up.
    Some stuff I can do myself, some I can't.

    No worries.

    The big thing for me was, and is location.

    I want a view.

    I'd be perfectly happy out in the middle of nowhere.

    To be realistic, however, that's not going to happen. Joy is a people person and needs to have folk near bye. Lords knows I'm no company. So, compromise as ever.

    Now we've seen lots of places over the last couple of years but this one has caught my interest.

    I'm going to post some photos and any constructive criticism, comments or observations will be gratefully received. Particularly helpful will be advice on how to make it good.

    The idea is to keep the basic Thai stuff but make it 100% user friendly for fat ugly Aussie/Brit bloke.

    Anyway, we'll see what happens.

    No, I'm not going to tell you what I'm paying for it. Not yet any way. Just remember I'm the kind of bloke that thinks 100bht shirts from the market are a lot nicer than the 1000 bhr shirts from the shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    Just remember I'm the kind of bloke that thinks 100bht shirts from the market are a lot nicer than the 1000 bhr shirts from the shop.
    Never JJ!

    I would never have thought that of you.

    Some pics of the property would help.

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    We''l start with the good bit. The view,



    And now the building.



    It's on a 1/4 Rai, with chanoot. Concrete road on one side Dirt track on 2 other sides. Council water and a well. Electricity and we think there was a phone installed.

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    I'm guessing 150,000

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    I'm guessing 150,000
    Not far off..... But what would you do with it?

    And NO we're not going to knock it down and build a new house.

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    view is almost identical to the one out of the back of my house.

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    With a view like that and if its cheap enough....I would buy it. Especially if an out of the way property is truly out of the question.

    1/4 rai is very small though for a country property.

    Is that view out the back of the house or the front...from behind the camera person.

    Main thing for me with something like that and if on a budget would be what you could build as a deck, bedroom etc to have that view come inside or at least onto a big deck...raised...to be able to really enjoy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    But what would you do with it?
    i'd knock it down and build a new house.

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    These windows look on to that view. My initial thoughts were to extend deck way out from the first floor.

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    that house is quite similar to the shitehole that we gave up on and tore down


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    i'd knock it down and build a new house.
    See above.

    I should add that the shed we currently live in, quite happily costs 1,400 bht a month. So, there's no rush.

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    What you could do with it is entirely up to your budget for it.

    For that cheap, buy it and then buy another block in the mountains with the views and use it as a holiday shack...give you an excuse to get away from the missus...if of course you need to get away from the missus...if not, she can grow vegies up there while you sit and watch.

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    Well the thing is there's another 1/4 rai next to it, well, on the other side of the track, with a shed on it, going for 70,000. Minus old lady.


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    So there ya go, buy both, you get to secure the view, so nobody builds a 3 story skyscraper there and you can bulldoze the shack, stick in a garden, feed ya for the rest of your life and not have to worry what happens during the next depression. Even give the old lady a job gardening for 1500 a month.

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    If you strip the wood off the top deck, including the flooring, you've got some decent raw material to build something nice. The concrete lower level can be roofed, tiled where appropriate, and retained as 'wet areas' e.g bogs & kitchen, & general storage. Just a thought.

    That is a pretty ubiquitous style rural house, but I must say going up and down those stairs gets a bit boring, wet and slippery in rain, perilous when you are pissed, not to mention a fair way to go for a piss.
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    First thing is get yourself a belt sander and sand back all that wood and re varnish it, then you got to decide how much your willing to spend on it, ie if you get up with the sun you aint got to worry about roof insulation etc, probably need more shaded areas outside, Natural? ie trees?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawty
    1500 a month.
    Fuck off................... way too much.

    I think the shed on the land for 70,000 is given. But I don't know what to do with the house. I don't want to knock it down and build a Lego house, but I don't know enough about building to reasonably assess the possibility of renovating it.

    In a perfect world tyhe outside would remain the same but the inside would be clean, airconned mosi proofed tiled etc etc.

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    The most important person to consider is Khun Joy.

    The view is superb and as you seem happy with the area go with your heart and let your wife make the decision.

    Then build around what you have and it seems that the main structure (flooring) looks OK as far as I can see.

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    Ok, to clarify things a bit. I can get the 2 blocks for 300,000 all in. Let's say I'm prepared to spend another 250,000 on doing it up.

    Don't laugh.


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    toilet just needs a splash of paint and some air freshener

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    The most important person to consider is Khun Joy.
    You're a very caring person LT. However, the most important person in this particular instance is the one who's very carefully balanced his books so he may never have to work again. Given that and the fact that the rent on the current shed being 1400 per month. 500,000 - 600,000 would cover the rent for about the next 30 years.

    Hmm, there's the old adage about not investing more than you're prepared to walk away from..

    Not from Joy, you understand, but LOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    I can get the 2 blocks for 300,000 all in.
    Offer them 200,000.00 and with the balance you can just about get away with the labour and materials to do the existing house up nice and clean.

    After all you should always aim for a deal you can't walk away from.

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