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    Question need work?

    Hello everyone , Charlie here with my first post.......

    I've just been too busy lately, just not enough time.

    Anybody have a building crew available?

    I need to build a new garden wall with a substancial footing 40M x 2M out at Mapbrachan Lake.

    Interested? Please quote your price / M2 and let's have a site meeting.

    There is a great story and pictures I'd like to share with the forum once this wall is rebuilt.

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    850,000 baht.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie
    There is a great story and pictures I'd like to share with the forum once this wall is rebuilt.
    Why does the lack of garden wall prevent you from posting it ?
    Just curious

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    He's not building a wall, he's burying bodies....

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    Organizing wild parties, maybe?

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    No wonder your rich memock, what with those prices

    Charlie it should cost about 100,000k baht.

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    hahaha FN ha

    Thanks for the laughs, I need them.

    The local government in Tampon Pong are going to bury my wifees body if she doesn't wise up.

    Sorry the 100k quote was too high

    I guess I can't upload will have to go to a photobuckateer.
    Okay.........
    once I've finished putting schematics in the sand with sharp sticks

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie
    Sorry the 100k quote was too high
    ahh I wouldn't do it for that price due to too much work and it is too far, but that is the price you should expect to pay at the low end side of it all, hope they don't run off with your money

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    100k seems to be in the upper region for that wall..
    I've resently had a 160m x 1.5m wall made for around 150k here in pricey Samui.

    Must have saved more than 10k on wood by using grey sewage pipes for the poles.
    Could also have bought 2m 10inch PVC pipe and splitted it in half for easy
    removal and reuse.

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    Lom it all depends on how you consider a garden wall should be finished, I consider a wall finished once it has been rendered off, also a 1.60 meter wall you do not need a trellis, over 1.6 meters everything has to be lifted up and is more labour intensive and time consuming, the Thai gov't is willing to pay 80k baht for that wall on big jobs, so the private sector on small jobs such as the above will cost more.

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    DD, I got mine rendered as well in that price. But did a good bit of negotiation with the guys - told them that the price they asked per meter was ok if I only wanted to do a couple of meters. But now we were talking many meters

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    But now we were talking many meters
    150,000bahts worth of gardens walls I would hardly call many meters, in the last 12 months I have built over 1 millions bahts worth of garden walls, and we dont advertise to build garden walls, they are just included in the job.

    But honestely a normal price would be 2,000baht per meter length for a 2 meter high wall, you start beating the price down from that then the builder needs to cut some corners to maintain his profit margin.

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    Sure DD, but for my workers it was not just a one-day job..
    They were available because they had a longer break from their normal job - the company who'd employed them had not been able to pay their wages the last month.
    I paid them better than normal so they where still very happy.

    And of course there was no builder profit in the sum I payed

    I'm sure though that having a wall made in Isan goes for quite a different price than having it done in Samui or Pattaya. Labour is much cheaper and so is sand and stone. Cement, cement block and metal is probably the same everywhere..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    And of course there was no builder profit in the sum I payed
    That's the bad bit, it means I wouldn't make any money and then wouldn't be able to buy food and stuff like that

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    Not forget the poor whores you cannot pay either.

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    Thai underground economy

    Here you touch the subject of underground work...

    How many do this over here, all the food stalls are illegal and create a bad competition toward the owner of a proper in order restaurant, no taxes, no proper hygiene....

    The building worker works after the hours for unreasonnably low prices, but what about security, quality...

    They have the same in italy and once Berlusconi was even promoting and advising his country fellows to work "black market " after hours... He said it is helpfull for the overall economy of the country ! but kinda illegal..

    For myself i use some of this workers as well we just built 2 rooms, painted them.... half the price then the contractor, we supplied materials, the staff had 3 to 5 times normal wages with this as we negotiated price in advance, they worked hard and fast...


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    [/quote]



    But honestely a normal price would be 2,000baht per meter length for a 2 meter high wall, you start beating the price down from that then the builder needs to cut some corners to maintain his profit margin.[/quote]

    Cheers,

    Settled on 90k for a stone wall.

    working away as of two days ago ...game on

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    You got any pics, charlie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie
    But honestely a normal price would be 2,000baht per meter length for a 2 meter high wall, you start beating the price down from that then the builder needs to cut some corners to maintain his profit margin.
    [/quote]


    That was the quote that was most important to me Charlie.

    Just to play devils advocate for a second. You would rather pay 90,000 baht and know your contractor was going to cut some corners? Or fork out 10 grand more, the contractor is happy from the gitgo, you know he is on the up and up and therefore dont have to make 2 visits a day to the site.


    Mate I would fork out the ten grand based on the contractors honesty. You aint gonna get a Thai contractor to say that!!!

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    It doesn't work that way AO, I have tried both ways.
    Accept a higher price, thinking that the contractor will not cut corners, is just fooling yourself.
    He will still cut corners to make a higher profit..
    Same same everywhere , not only in Thailand, but maybe to a greater extent here..

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    I think finding the best person for the job is always going to be based on recommendations from previous customers. By being willing to pay more than the going rate you run the risk of looking like a soft-touch and can end up worse off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillbilly
    You got any pics, charlie?
    yes, I will post, maybe It'll be interesting to see, however I've got a dial up and I have had other shit to do lately on the www = no time.
    Poor at time management!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one
    Quote Originally Posted by charlie
    But honestely a normal price would be 2,000baht per meter length for a 2 meter high wall, you start beating the price down from that then the builder needs to cut some corners to maintain his profit margin.

    That was the quote that was most important to me Charlie.

    Just to play devils advocate for a second. You would rather pay 90,000 baht and know your contractor was going to cut some corners? Or fork out 10 grand more, the contractor is happy from the gitgo, you know he is on the up and up and therefore dont have to make 2 visits a day to the site.


    Mate I would fork out the ten grand based on the contractors honesty. You aint gonna get a Thai contractor to say that!!![/quote]


    Relative of my wifee ( ain't they all around here )

    3 payments 35k -35k and 20k on completion.

    Also sent the foreman to china to study stone wall building, really though, my buyer would like into the house soon, and has offered 5k bonus on completion ASAP.
    I think it's difficult to get a win-win deal here, sometimes you just have to keep my frustration under control, I find the Asian mind hard work.
    In this case I hope all can agree there is ample carrots on the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    It doesn't work that way AO, I have tried both ways.
    Accept a higher price, thinking that the contractor will not cut corners, is just fooling yourself.
    He will still cut corners to make a higher profit..
    Same same everywhere , not only in Thailand, but maybe to a greater extent here..
    I agree with you, high price does not guarantee quality, there is no QC. Unlike say the car industry

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    Quote Originally Posted by danbo




    I think finding the best person for the job is always going to be based on recommendations from previous customers. By being willing to pay more than the going rate you run the risk of looking like a soft-touch and can end up worse off.
    I haven't found anybody that can recommend anybody around here,

    most falang find it an ordeal in my area as there is way too much work available.

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