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    I like calling a shovel a shovel

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    especially when they could use one of these things that is just sitting there in the sun.
    That's a shovel
    To dig a hole you need a spade

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    whatever it is, beats a bloody hoe.

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    ^^think it's the other way around
    Heres a shovel :Shovel picture - Google Search

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    according to google...

    shovel.



    spade.




    look pretty much the same to me.

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    I suspect this is an actual shovel.



    I could definitely dig a hole with either of these things better than with a hoe.

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    You have never tried to dig a hole in Thai soil then I take it.....

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    I always like to call a spade a spade and have often said so, I now realise that throughout my life I have been saying to people that "I like to call a spade a spade", when in fact i have been calling a spade a shovel and vise versa.

    Anyway, I think il;l call 'em niggas from now on

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    Spade




    Shovel


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    I think the bottom one is a coal shovel marmite.

    totally wrong for digging a hole.

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    ^exactly, spades are for digging holes, shovels are for shovelling.

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    A spade has a pointed scoop, like this.




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    A spade has a straight handle
    A shovel has a goose neck handle
    That is the difference.

    A shovel will usually have a lip on each side of the blade but the blade shape is not what determines whether it is a spade or shovel

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    yet theters contends that this is a shovel.




    looks like a spade to me.
    totally appropriate for hole diggery.

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    Has it got a straight handle ?
    Difficult to tell at that angle

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    I wonder if this shovel, spade talk couldn't be split into another thread.

    buadhai's building thread was far more succesful and this is only day one.

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    ^ The spade/shovel posts should be moved to Issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
    yet theters contends that this is a shovel.




    looks like a spade to me.
    totally appropriate for hole diggery.
    Totally useless for digging.
    No pointed scoop, and also important, no metal reinforcement for
    putting your foot on.
    A typical shovel..

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    A shovel has a short handle.

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    shov·el /ˈʃʌvəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[shuhv-uhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, -eled, -el·ing or (especially British) -elled, -el·ling. –noun 1.an implement consisting of a broad blade or scoop attached to a long handle, used for taking up, removing, or throwing loose matter, as earth, snow, or coal.



    spade1 /speɪd/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[speyd] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, spad·ed, spad·ing. –noun 1.a tool for digging, having an iron blade adapted for pressing into the ground with the foot and a long handle commonly with a grip or crosspiece at the top, and with the blade usually narrower and flatter than that of a shovel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    Totally useless for digging.
    No pointed scoop, and also important, no metal reinforcement for
    putting your foot on.
    A typical shovel..
    surely better than a hoe.

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    Shovel

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    For the band, see Shovel (band).

    Shovel with wide blade - especially appropriate for lifting snow or coal


    A shovel is a tool for lifting and moving loose material such as coal, gravel, snow, soil, or sand and is an extremely common tool which is used extensively in agriculture, construction and gardening. It is usually a hand tool consisting of a broad blade with edges or sides that is fixed to a medium-length handle.
    Hand shovel blades are typically made of pressed sheet steel, folded at the back to make a socket for the handle. The handles are usually made of wood, although steel or even lightweight composite materials may also be used, and is riveted in place. A T-piece is commonly fitted to the end of the handle to aid grip and control where the shovel is designed for moving soil and heavy materials. This design can be easily mass produced.
    The term "shovel" is also applied to larger excavating machines, such as steam shovels, which are designed for the same purpose—lifting and moving material, see Loader (equipment).
    Hand shovels have been adapted for many different tasks and environments. They can be optimized for a single task or designed as cross-over or compromise tools to perform multiple tasks, for example:
    Military entrenching tool manufactured by Fiskars for the USMC


    • A coal shovel typically has a wide, flat blade with steeply turned sides, a flat face and a short D-shaped handle.
    • A snowshovel often has a very wide sideless blade that curves upward attached to a long, straight handle. It is designed as much for pushing the snow as for lifting it. The blade can be metal or plastic, but the latter has been used to offer a lighter tool.
    • A spade is designed primarily for breaking up ("spading") clumps of soil. A spade usually has a point and is designed to be pushed into the soil with a foot. Spade blades usually have a rounded face without sharply upturned sides.
    • A Trench shovel is long and narrow, used for digging fairly deep, but narrow trenches, or post-holes.
    • A gardening trowel is a small single-hand implement for breaking up clumps in soil. Gardening trowels typically have strong, narrow blades with sharp points.
    • An entrenching tool is a collapsible and/or compact shovel designed for the military. It may have a spade-like point with sharpened or even serrated edges for secondary use as an axe or saw, respectively. Some militaries of the world (most notably units of the Soviet Union) train their servicemen to use entrenching shovels as makeshift close combat weapons. This tactic has been widely used in the battlefields of World War I and World War II.
    • A roofing shovel is a specialized prying tool which evolved from the use of spading forks and pitchforks to remove old shingles and underlayment as part of roof repair.
    • Barn Shovel used to shovel grain
    • Coal shovel used to shovel coal
    • Garden Shovel used a spade like blade to dig into hard dirt
    from Shovel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Spade

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    small spade for clay soil; the other one for sandy soil and loamy soil


    A spade is a tool designed primarily for the purpose of digging or removing earth.[1] The first spades were made of graven wood. In the time of the Sumerians, iron ore was crafted to provide a sharper tip and more efficient digging. Before the advent of metal spades manual labour was very inefficient at moving earth, only after the invention of the iron spade did large-scale construction become feasible with the right amount of workers.
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    [edit] Etymology

    English spade is from Old English spadu, spædu (f.) or spada (m.). The same word is found in Old Frisian spade and Old Saxon spado. High German spaten only appears in Early Modern German, propably loaned from Low German. Scandinavian forms are in turn loaned from German. The term may thus not originate in Common Germanic and appears to be a North Sea Germanic innovation or loaned. Closely related is Greek σπαθη, whence Latin spatha.
    English shovel is from Old English scofl (f.), cognate to Old High German scûvala (f.), from a Common Germanic skuflô, root cognate with shove.

    [edit] Designs of spades

    Spades are made in many shapes and sizes, for a variety of different functions and jobs. There are many different designs used in spade manufacturing. The most common spade is a garden spade, which typically has a long handle, is wide, and is treaded (has rests for the feet to drive the spade into the ground). An Irish spade is similar to a common garden spade, with the same general design, although it has a much thinner head. A turfing iron has a short, round head, and it used for cutting and parring off turf. A digging fork, or grape, is forked much like a pitchfork, and is useful for loosening ground and gardening.

    [edit] Digging tool

    In gardening, a spade is a hand tool used to dig or loosen ground, or to break up clumps in the soil. Together with the fork it forms one of the chief implements wielded by the hand in agriculture and horticulture. It is sometimes considered a type of shovel. Its typical shape is a broad flat blade with a sharp lower edge, straight or curved. The upper edge on either side of the handle affords space for the user's foot, which drives it into the ground. The wooden handle ends in a cross-piece, sometimes T-shaped and sometimes forming a kind of loop for the hand.
    Small and/or plastic toy versions of the same tool are used to dig sand castles on a beach or in a sand-box.



    Spade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    according to google, this little device is also a shovel.

    a small shovel, yet it has a head like a spade.

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    This thread is far more entertaining than the one about the house

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