Thread: Building my Thailand swimming pool

^Thanx, I guess I just lucked out..

[disclaimer] No attacking intended here just strictly information: But just like in the States on certain products don't get too caught up in the Aussie products either many of them are also Chinese manufactured and there is one in particular (name escapes me at the moment I'll post if I remember, Tornado, Cyclone? Maybe?) But it is a virtual copy of the Emaux or should I say the other way around that I'm not certain, but it is manufactured by the same company, maybe you will recognize it? They even have a similar paint scheme but one is light blue (more aqua) and the other is slightly darker colored. Internally they have only minimal variations to make them different, (read Chinese copy) but externally virtually the same. (BTW they named it Emaux so you would think it was some fancy French model and not Chinese, clever that)

[disclaimer] No one upmanship intended here just "informing": But depending on the pools size it may even require more than once a day (in an 8-10 hour period, not 24 like so many run their pools here, should be completely unnecessary) turn over and ideally 1.5 times a day is minimally optimum, while anything over that will be a bonus but usually, likely more just a waste if your pool is properly balanced..

Originally Posted by Driventowin

Mine probably won't be the popular answer cause it's way to honest but you did inquire and while I'm not interested in getting into a pissing contest with the king of swimming pool construction on here.. All I'll say is that most of what I see listed in terms of equipment is low quality, better than some but still well below some others. Chinese copies which will cause you a ton of trouble.

I don't know what experience others here have with actually disassembling and repairing any of their equipment but I have repaired numerous pumps, motors, filters, salt chlorinators and more lights in 4 months time than I ever had to over a period of the previous 15 years. Most (not all) but most of what is offered is strictly due to profit margin and has no relation to your long term goals of reliability. If you take that into account seriously than there are alternatives, and if you PM me I will pass them on and give you an honest assessment.. But I won't post on this open forum anymore for ridicule just because others hold the power of popularity.. That is, if you ever even see this post?

Thanks Driventowin. I need a few more posts before I have the authorization to PM or send e-mail your way but will do so shortly. Thanks.

Originally Posted by dirtydog

I didn't even realise it was Chinese stuff, just checked and your right, the stuff we use in Pattaya is Aussie stuff, wouldn't recommend anything electrical from China, and definitely not pumps, your pump needs to turn over the whole swimming pool everyday, need something a bit more reliable than Chinese stuff for that.

Thanks DD for the insight. As I have my contractor prepared to meet my equipment requests, I'd really looking to to get a recommendation based on profound knowledge of what equipment is available, will not break the bank and ensure reliability and care free use of the pool. I've gotten an advisement from hardriverxxxxxx to consider other than Emaux brand or even the prospect of an overflow pool and sand filter. I'll be sticking with the overflow pool concept but am somewhat flexible with the pump and filtering and lighting equipment. I need a few more posts before PMing or e-mailing so let me get to it.

Originally Posted by Driventowin

[disclaimer] No attacking intended here just strictly information: But just like in the States on certain products don't get too caught up in the Aussie products either many of them are also Chinese manufactured and there is one in particular (name escapes me at the moment I'll post if I remember, Tornado, Cyclone? Maybe?) But it is a virtual copy of the Emaux or should I say the other way around that I'm not certain, but it is manufactured by the same company, maybe you will recognize it? They even have a similar paint scheme but one is light blue (more aqua) and the other is slightly darker colored. Internally they have only minimal variations to make them different, (read Chinese copy) but externally virtually the same. (BTW they named it Emaux so you would think it was some fancy French model and not Chinese, clever that)

[disclaimer] No one upmanship intended here just "informing": But depending on the pools size it may even require more than once a day (in an 8-10 hour period, not 24 like so many run their pools here, should be completely unnecessary) turn over and ideally 1.5 times a day is minimally optimum, while anything over that will be a bonus but usually, likely more just a waste if your pool is properly balanced..

Driventowin, Thanks again. Understand that Chinese manufactured equip may not be the way to go. Still need some posts to qualify for PMing so will do so when I have the req 20 posts. Based on what is available and affordable in Thai, what might be the recommended pump, filter, and lighting for a 6 x 9 overflow pool at 1.5 to 2.5 depth? Thanks.

Another recomendation was for a Lacoron Sand Filter (30") and a Jacuzzi Pump and Motro 1.5 HP. The 1.5 HP pump motor seems a little light to me. Any thoughts on Lacoron and Jacuzzi manufactured brands?

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Originally Posted by dirtydog

I didn't even realise it was Chinese stuff, just checked and your right, the stuff we use in Pattaya is Aussie stuff, wouldn't recommend anything electrical from China, and definitely not pumps, your pump needs to turn over the whole swimming pool everyday, need something a bit more reliable than Chinese stuff for that.

Emaux is supposedly ISO 9000:2001 certified which means their suppliers are providing to at least those standards. I thought that acquiring ISO certification which is quite rigorous, was a reflection on the quality of item manufactured/supplied. It sounds from your 1st hand experience that they may not be meeting that standard. Is your experience recent, say within the last 5 years?

I remember when "made in Japan" was synonymous with junk. Progress is constantly being made by companies from previous non technical and agricultural countries who over time have industralized and with the infusion of western companies are now exporting. China is one of those countries that have made this progress. That's not to say that Emaux products are now good but does lend some validity to a country and company changing over time and making improvements in processes and quality of products.