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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    No. He said it would be more feasible than trying to do it using hi-tech materials that are taken for granted in the west.
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    OK - After taking on-board the cost element and talking to an architect, it looks like I will have to have a concrete roof, as the steel is way too expensive and too 'high-technology' with regard to waterproofing it.
    Steel truss and tiled roof starts at 550baht per square meter, concrete just over 2,000baht per square meter.

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    ^ Thank you.

    I was looking at steel truss with plywood and a modern weatherproof membrane at the time. Do they even do stuff like that here? What about zinc panels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    I was looking at steel truss with plywood and a modern weatherproof membrane at the time
    That is hardly modern technology, bitumen roofs have been around before I was born, they wouldn't like the sun here though, probably dribble down your walls, you are trying to keep the costs down, the only way to do that is steel truss and roof tiles, as for the Aussie alloy stuff, that is colorbond, probably been around longer than me aswell, the Thais just drill it straight onto the steel truss and rivet it, no idea how it is supposed to be fitted but I don't think that is the way.

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    As for the original question, can I build a home for less than B250,000.

    My vote is no.

    But then I don't want to live like a brit...

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    ^ You're probably right, but there's no harm in trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    the Thais just drill it straight onto the steel truss and rivet it, no idea how it is supposed to be fitted but I don't think that is the way. __________________
    I had my colorbond roof replaced after a huge hailstorm and I think that is exactly how it was fitted.

    Although I very well could be wrong.

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    Sorry, but from the past discussion it seems you're not in Thailand at the moment. That turns something that's already a hard thing to do into an almost impossible thing to do.

    Like you're discussing materials and designs without being able to check what those materials cost, and how feasible the design is..

    Why not wait with all this until you're able to walk around one of those big construction building markets where they have every kind of roofing material ever invented by man, and you can compare and decide?

    I like saving money as much as the next guy, and I personally believe that the most savings are in those things them typical Farangs want, specifically all the crap they put in their kitchens and bathrooms, 5,000 baht water taps, x,000 baht fancy floor tiles, etc, etc.

    I think for the basics the savings are A. minimal, and B. actually DO cut into the basic quality of your house. I mean, saving money on a roof.. just DONT. Go with a good value for money durable material, that comes in colors other than blue. Take it out of your beer & Marmite budget if you must.

    End of rant.

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    BTW, how about that material that's on the pussy-shaped sections at Skankbunny Airport? What IS that stuff anyways?

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    DD, what's the going price for ceramic tile roof?

    I bought 2,000 tiles at 62 baht each. Still have a few hundred left to do a small shed.

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    This one about 160,000 baht.


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    But on a serious note a small house was built in the village recently for about 250,000 baht. Will get picture tomorrow.

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    Ceramic tile roof? I think you mean the cement board type tiles that look like aspestos, ie 120cm by 55? - 60cm, your still looking at a truss to chuck them up on, and that is the expensive bit, those size tiles reckon a total cost of 550baht per square meter.

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    No, they're ceramic, not cement.



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    Ahhh, they will be heavy, needs lots of steel to hold them up, reckon on 2,000baht plus per square meter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    No, they're ceramic, not cement.
    Nice tiles. I have similar. Are you finished building yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Ahhh, they will be heavy, needs lots of steel to hold them up, reckon on 2,000baht plus per square meter.
    I decided to add a couple extra beams just to be safe because of the weight. Also found there was quite bit of waste because they break easy and cutting waste if roof design is complex. The flat main tiles were expensive but I was shocked at how much more the "special" bits like gable ends and top tiles were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteLotusLane
    Sorry, but from the past discussion it seems you're not in Thailand at the moment.
    The last time I looked, Bangkok was in Thailand. Have you actually read the thread?

    I don't want a colorbond roof, I want a Trilon Corroshield.

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    I'm sorry for misunderstanding that.

    I still say to not save on the basic structure, but save on everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteLotusLane
    I still say to not save on the basic structure, but save on everything else.
    Agreed.

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    OK. Last night I met with two architects and an engineer who have about 40 years of experience working in Asia, but mainly Thailand. Now, I admit that most of their work isn't in designing little houses (MRT, BTS, office blocks, hotels, etc.), but they still know their shit.

    I was advised to make it smaller (4 x 4 instead of 6 x 4) and I was told that a concrete roof was feasible and the cheapest way to make a flat roof here. The roof slab will be poured to a thickness of 150mm with a screed making a 4 way slope from the centre of the roof out to the edges. The deepest point at the centre of the roof would be a total thickness of around 200mm. Waterproofing and insulating the roof will be sorted out when I speak to the concrete expert that we know.

    The glass wall are made from standard glass doors, but the height will be a non standard 2400mm. Each panel is 1000mm wide, and the 2 central panels will slide open.

    The electricity for the wall sockets will be run under the floor slab and will use exposed steel conduit and wall boxes in the living area on the columns. In the bedroom and kitchen, more normal cable runs will be utilised. The lighting will also use exposed conduit for the ceiling lights in all areas and and wall lights in the living area.





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    Looks nice from the pictures!
    Are you going for an industrial feel with exposed conduit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jizzybloke
    Are you going for an industrial feel with exposed conduit?
    A bit. There won't actually be too much, so it'll be semi-industrial.

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    I think some exposed bits are nice to make a feature of but too much looks a bit shity. only my opinion though.

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    Marmers, why is the kitchen in the middle and at the front door? I'm just thinking in terms of ventilation and a bit of aesthetics.

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