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    Builder Needed Khon Kaen area

    I Will be in Thailand next month.
    I am a concrete highrise construction professional (specialty concrete forms) in the NYC area local 212 NYC, and was planing to do the main structure (foundation. columns , beams and slab) myself with local labor help, but the idea was nixed by the wife because we can not have the monks bless the job until after Buddhist lent , by which time I will be back at work in the US.
    It is important to me that the main structure is done correctly. anything else done wrong can be fixed later, but not structural problems.
    It will be a two story structure with most of the downstairs open , a relatively easy build.
    Will post more details and the build when we are ready to start.
    I have the plans, and fund but not the time and reliable builder.
    We do have a distant relative in the village with which we plan to meet and talk , and unless I really don't like him or other red flags we will probably end up using.
    The village is just outside the ring road not too far from the university, and everyone seems to be related in one way or an other, not to use him would probably cause strain.
    But I would like to have other options, and get other outside input, or in case my wife's relations are not available .
    And would appreciate any referrals to builders you have used and liked. I understand even though he might have being good at your build. the same need not apply on mine, but it's a good start.
    Thank you all.
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    Just one little thing mate,

    If ya read the building threads on this forum there is one common denominator.

    Doing a house build and being absent from the build is setting ya self up for some serious angst.

    That's only if ya care about doing it the right way though.

    Good luck.
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    What Ter said...

    Personal round-the-clock supervision is certainly required.

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    Ditto to Terry's post also.

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    I have built two houses here

    We live 22kms west of KhonKaen

    I suggest you need to be present 24/7 during the construction to oversea the steel and concrete pouring, builders will undersize to save on steel costs and add extra water to make pouring the concrete easier, will not unless pushed vibrate the concrete in or film wrap it to prevent drying too quick

    you are welcome to visit I do know of one builder but would not leave him unsupervised

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    You let your wife dictate you when to do the construction work on the house she will own and you will work on and pay for- obviously.
    How sad is that?
    And then like a whipped buffalo you need to find a contractor to trust?
    To mark a new beginning on tD, why don't you hire a larger well reputed constr company in KK, instead of hireing the local nitwidts like most of the members her do?
    Why don't you approach the task at hand as a man, grow a pair , talk to companies as you would in you NY.
    Jeezz, another pussywipped leaving his brain behind in the mutherland.
    Depressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by al007 View Post
    I have built two houses here

    We live 22kms west of KhonKaen

    I suggest you need to be present 24/7 during the construction to oversea the steel and concrete pouring, builders will undersize to save on steel costs and add extra water to make pouring the concrete easier, will not unless pushed vibrate the concrete in or film wrap it to prevent drying too quick

    you are welcome to visit I do know of one builder but would not leave him unsupervised
    I've built four-and-a-half in my day and found, from experience, that one needs to be around 24/7 to make sure things are right to your needs and specs - overall, generally speaking

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    I gathered a gang of rice farmers together and threw the contents of a tent kit on the ground and asked them to put it up.After some time they worked it out, so I hired them for my house built and left them too it.
    Still standing today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;3597779
    I have built two houses here

    We live 22kms west of KhonKaen

    I suggest you need to be present 24/7 during the construction to oversea the steel and concrete pouring, builders will undersize to save on steel costs and add extra water to make pouring the concrete easier, will not unless pushed vibrate the concrete in or film wrap it to prevent drying too quick

    you are welcome to visit I do know of one builder but would not leave him unsupervised
    Thank you al007 I will Pm you when I get there.and would apreciate his name and number.
    As I said in my Op , I am a concrete professional with 30 years experience in the industry so I do know of all the pitfalls concerning concrete construction. Undersized steel, steel to close to the form, wrong or no chairs , honeycombing do to under vibration or slurry float to over-vibration, too much water in concrete, not covering concrete while it dries etc etc etc.
    These are all things I can't fix after the fact, in fact i would not know about them until they are a problem. Anything else I can fix, tiles not done right, i could fix, don't want to have to but I could, electric not done right, fixable but not structural problems. these can be fatal.
    I also have a 15 year experience with Thailand, married to my Thai wife over 10 and coming there almost every year.
    I certainly don't plan to leave them alone . especially for the critical parts.
    As far as someone else's comment on my balls and their size, I would say that I checked them in at the door when I got married. I tend to use my head for my thinking not my balls.
    Thais believe that bad things will happen if the tradition is not followed. I don't believe it but I respect my wife's culture, not to mention that if I did not, every bad thing that happened would be my fault because I did dot follow tradition.

    I appreciate and will consider any recommendations and or suggestions

    Thank you all

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    I see your join date is 2010 so I trust you have read the building / construction threads.

    It is my understanding that even the " reputable " companies may do slap dash work. Get the blessing and then do your homework thoroughly. I understand concreet can't wait once poured. You know that so have all the forms in order, to your liking that is, unless you really trust the crew.

    I've seen the good, the bad and the ugly. Hope your on high ground. They are sandbagging aroud our little farm house now just in case the Mekong crests from all the recent rains. I heard it's getting close and am eagerly awaiting some recent pics.

    I'm not worried about it structurally as it's way over built for what it is. The lower concreet and brick the upper is, well like a Amish barn in a way.

    Good luck to you and yours with the project and please let us know how it flows along. I'll let you know if ours cracks up and or floats away with.........the fish.

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    Pipework isn't a Thai's strong point. Good luck




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    I swear I had some picks of these folks with a dynamite water pipe.

    Never mind..... stupid fish, smart phone. Someday I'll figure it out. In the meantime I'll take a deep breath and hum ohm.

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    My comments,

    As many have said being here 24/7 is the default comment based on their experiences which I respect. However if you engage a reputable General contractor that is not completely true.

    We had our house built while my wife and I were in the US. Here is how it worked for us;

    1) Do your homework with the General Contractor. Go look at some of his builds for detail and finish. ask owners for feedback.

    2) Find one that owns the entire build process from start to finish and that his team is working for him and his business, not part timers

    3) Make sure you have some rendered drawings with the specific details you want and you both review and sign in agreement

    4) Set up a family member with a smart phone with Line and Skype and have them drop by and update.

    5) Set up Skype or Line with General Contractor and plan on a weekly call with update pictures.

    6) Set up negotiations where payment will be done in small increments as the work is completed with the biggest payment being the last one.. Do not pay until you are satisfied

    7) Plan on 3 trips over. 1 Blessing to start build (Thai culture deal and is quite fun actually) 1 at mid point and 1 at completion. My wife came at the mid point inspection. I was here to start and final walk through

    Our house turned out fantastic. My FIL was onsite and he watched over it all. My wife called him every few days. He also sent us pictures. We set up 4 payments. 25% down to start. Then 10% at about the quarter done mark, 15% at 3/4 mark and then we flew over for the last 50% after our walk through.

    It can be done while not being onsite. But it takes some extra work and the key again is a reputable General Contractor. Now you will pay a bit more for this but the results in the end are better. If you want to go "cheap charley" you will definitely get what you pay for and have to chase it and be onsite.

    Best of luck

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    Why cant the monks bless till end of lent.You think all construction of homes comes to a standstill for 3 months in Thailand.I know they must sleep at their own temples but do many functions during this 3 month period

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotdog1206
    Why cant the monks bless till end of lent.You think all construction of homes comes to a standstill for 3 months in Thailand.I know they must sleep at their own temples but do many functions during this 3 month period
    The monks will bless the house build before Lent, even though the actual physical work may not start until during the Lent period. That is how they get around the 3 month period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hotdog1206
    Why cant the monks bless till end of lent.You think all construction of homes comes to a standstill for 3 months in Thailand.I know they must sleep at their own temples but do many functions during this 3 month period
    The monks will bless the house build before Lent, even though the actual physical work may not start until during the Lent period. That is how they get around the 3 month period.
    Or just wait a couple months.
    What's the hurry having the housed blessed? Be it a completed project, or not.

    The respective monks/abbots are just looking for a cash-out, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    What's the hurry having the housed blessed? Be it a completed project, or not.
    I believe it's done to appease the spirits that are already living on the land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    What's the hurry having the housed blessed? Be it a completed project, or not.
    I believe it's done to appease the spirits that are already living on the land.

    ....and cash donations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post

    Our house turned out fantastic. My FIL was onsite and he watched over it all. My wife called him every few days. He also sent us pictures. We set up 4 payments. 25% down to start. Then 10% at about the quarter done mark, 15% at 3/4 mark and then we flew over for the last 50% after our walk through.
    Sure but you had a switched on Family member watching over the Builders arse so in effect you were there.

    It's the plebs who cannot be there and has no one with any real knowledge watching Somchai who will go tits up dealing with Thai builders.

    It's a gong show really innit.

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    Building work is all about the finish. Only time will tell if the underneath was done properly. In other words 'just cuz it looks nice doesn't mean it's a good build'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    Sure but you had a switched on Family member watching over the Builders arse so in effect you were there.
    Absolutely T57. You followed my house build thread. I posted loads of pics of each step. But to your point, having a FIL who was savy and had worked in construction made it like we were there. It can be done, Just have to plan it all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic
    Building work is all about the finish. Only time will tell if the underneath was done properly. In other words 'just cuz it looks nice doesn't mean it's a good build'.
    Agreed Pragmatic. Why I insisted on daily pictures of the pillar and foundation pours as well as all other process steps. I was very picky. One thing up to this point I have been impressed with is that we have had very limited hairline cracking of the rendered cement from either stress or thermal expansion. I have seen many homes where there are huge cracks in every wall and around the door frames propagating outward.

    I think another thing that is very important whether you are there or not is that you understand build techniques and what is right and wrong. You could be onsite 24/7 but if you have no basic knowledge of house building (especially plumbing, electrical and cement work) it wouldn't really matter. Clearly not the case with the OP but many do come here and have no experience
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    I have being involved with Thailand for along time and have being following this and other building forum. I am well aware of all the pitfalls of building in Thailand but it does help being reminded. Thank you all for all your useful advice and comments but...
    Coming to Thailand soon,
    and do need the names of reputable builders.
    I guess if all else fails I will drive by construction sites see the kind of job they are doing and take names.

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