Thai Dhupp and Princess Joy's Thai House Build

**Thai Dhupp** · 20-03-2018, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Are you installing Fans?

If so ... are they 'ceiling' fans?

If so ... have you asked your wife's opinion about ceiling fans?

If not ... when considering 'wall sockets' / 'power points' think about some if you are considering wall mounted fans.

Hi David... fans.. hmmm.. im not a fan (sorry). Yes..there will be extractor fans in the WC's / bathrooms.

If we have any fixed fans a all they will probably be in that large 10m x 8m area under the living room, in zone B (the open area for sitting / socialising).

I don't really want fans stuck to the walls in the living spaces upstairs.

We have always just had a pedestal fan for when its really needed, as sometimes the apartment in BKK can warm up.

Here we are not susceptible to another apartment below and rising heat, and our construction will use heat-insulating Q-con throughout to minimise heat transfer into the building. Big roof overhangs too.

I'm not against fans but I don't really want fixed units dominating rooms. That's just me.

I'm sure PJ will learn to love my decision ! LOL... and if you believe that you will believe anything. Actually I did mention fans etc but she did not immediately jump in with fan here, fan there, etc.

Perhaps I might 'mention' it again...

**Thai Dhupp** · 20-03-2018, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by dennis4558

and then... w.w.w.what happened? you mean you didnt take any? nothing at all!!??!?\

If that happens to be the only problem you had you will be very lucky,
Everything seem to be moving along very smoothly and problem free, hope that continues for you on stage 3 also.
You're doing a great job keeping us informed.

Fingers crossed, Dennis... you are right, but probably something more will occur before we get to September. (or before September, as the builder has really got stuck into this one!!)

**Thai Dhupp** · 20-03-2018, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by dennis4558

If so ... have you asked your wife's opinion about ceiling fans?
Good question

When I ask my wife about fans, she opted for wall mounted.
I know I don't want fans setting all over the floors

I don't mind the odd pedestal fan, but I guess I better consult SWMBO...

**Thai Dhupp** · 20-03-2018, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by dennis4558

The Thailand Wiring Page

This site gave some info on thai house wiring, I found it on another site when I was looking on how wiring is done in LOS vers. US

Thanks for the reminder Dennis. This was done by Crossy, and his house-build thread (on 'another' forum) was the first one I ever read. A very good one.

He knows his stuff for electricals, and this is a useful reference.

**David48atTD** · 20-03-2018, 02:42 PM

^ Crossy is one nice guy from my dealings with him from the other Forum.

As for the 'fan question' ... you may wish to dig a little deeper now with SWMBO to save angst later.

Thai's dislike ceiling fans because they drop from the ceiling faster then a Lady in NANA knickers.
My Partner was hit in the head by one which dropped from the ceiling in a Thai Restaurant.

Unless you plan to live in an Air-Conditioned box ... fans will be a part of your Thai living, no matter what
overhang you have/what your walls are built of.

If the ambient air temp is 30C+ and the humidity is 70%+ ... the fans will be a spinning

If there are no ceiling fans and no wall fans there will be a snake's pit of wires and leads across the tiled floors
with the pedestal fans which will inhabit any room.

IMHO

**David48atTD** · 20-03-2018, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by dennis4558

Does anyone know if wall fans are direct wired or plug into a socket?

Most of the ones I've seen in homes are plug and wall socket.

Some have the socket protruding from the ceiling ... if they have a ceiling

For some reason, they just don't show the lead in the promo shot.

Home Pro ... https://www.homepro.co.th/product/1042777

We don't have a socket there, so we just run a lead.

I think we bought ours from TESCO LOTUS.

Which, of course we call the Store TESCO ... and the Thai's call it LOTUS

**Stumpy** · 20-03-2018, 03:33 PM

I have 3spd ceiling fans in every room in our place. No Thai weirdness here. I personally did not want Hatari fans all over the house and cords all over. I highly recommend them. They are clean and efficient and they run whisper quiet at night to keep us cool. I seldom use our ACs albeit my wife will some time turn one on for about an hour then let the ceiling fan takeover. My FIL loves his. We have a large house and PEA bill is always between 1500 and 2000 baht a month during hot months and under 1000 baht during the mild times of year. Our biggest power consumption comes from my big western style clothes dryer but I can't stand crispy sun dried Levi's and T shirts

Again only suggestions for Thai Dhupp. Clearly it's personal preference.

@ Thai Dhupp. Another thing to consider is having power under your kitchen sink. I blew it and forgot. Having power under the sink allows you to power up a water purification system or a small POU Hot water heater. I added a small reverse osmosis UV water purification system and there was no power.

**Thai Dhupp** · 20-03-2018, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Most of the ones I've seen in homes are plug and wall socket.

Some have the socket protruding from the ceiling ... if they have a ceiling

For some reason, they just don't show the lead in the promo shot.

Home Pro ... https://www.homepro.co.th/product/1042777

We don't have a socket there, so we just run a lead.

I think we bought ours from TESCO LOTUS.

Which, of course we call the Store TESCO ... and the Thai's call it LOTUS

or.TESCO Lotah'...

lol thanks for this input, David, sure I will 'reconsider' as you are making a good case. maybe we can stretch to a ceiling fan or two for the living and dining rooms.

These are the 2 main rooms which have large folding doors opening outside so I can see the sense in some 'air-movers'.

**Thai Dhupp** · 20-03-2018, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by JPPR2

I have 3spd ceiling fans in every room in our place. No Thai weirdness here. I personally did not want Hatari fans all over the house and cords all over. I highly recommend them. They are clean and efficient and they run whisper quiet at night to keep us cool. I seldom use our ACs albeit my wife will some time turn one on for about an hour then let the ceiling fan takeover. My FIL loves his. We have a large house and PEA bill is always between 1500 and 2000 baht a month during hot months and under 1000 baht during the mild times of year. Our biggest power consumption comes from my big western style clothes dryer but I can't stand crispy sun dried Levi's and T shirts

Again only suggestions for Thai Dhupp. Clearly it's personal preference.

@ Thai Dhupp. Another thing to consider is having power under your kitchen sink. I blew it and forgot. Having power under the sink allows you to power up a water purification system or a small POU Hot water heater. I added a small reverse osmosis UV water purification system and there was no power.

Here in the ME its a different story JP, with AC-land the norm. I suppose I just got used to that in the 10 years I have been here... never fitted a fan at all.

That point about the under-sink power supply is a good one for all the reasons you mention. I did not think of that so ..cheers for the heads-up. I think we will be including it .

What was the detail on your ceiling fans? I will take a look...

**Norton** · 20-03-2018, 04:11 PM

https://teakdoor.com/construction-in-...tallation.html (Ceiling Fans / Installation?)
Global house has good ones.

**Thai Dhupp** · 20-03-2018, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

https://teakdoor.com/construction-in-...tallation.html (Ceiling Fans / Installation?)
Global house has good ones.

Cheers Norton, I have made a note for nearer the time...

**Stumpy** · 20-03-2018, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp

That point about the under-sink power supply is a good one for all the reasons you mention. I did not think of that so ..cheers for the heads-up. I think we will be including it .

You are Welcome, Always glad to help.

Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp

What was the detail on your ceiling fans? I will take a look..

Thai Dhupp, Not to hijack your thread at all but to offer some ideas, Below is a picture of my TV room. I have 7 ceiling fans like this through out our place. Bedrooms are remote control, others are wall control. All have lights.

Norton is right Global House has good ones. We bought ours online all at one time and received a pretty good discount and free delivery. Never had an issue with any of them. I am sitting under one right now as I type this.....

**Thai Dhupp** · 20-03-2018, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by JPPR2

You are Welcome, Always glad to help.

Thai Dhupp, Not to hijack your thread at all but to offer some ideas, Below is a picture of my TV room. I have 7 ceiling fans like this through out our place. Bedrooms are remote control, others are wall control. All have lights.

Norton is right Global House has good ones. We bought ours online all at one time and received a pretty good discount and free delivery. Never had an issue with any of them. I am sitting under one right now as I type this.....

There is no hijacking, just good information exchange between everyone involved in this build thread.

I welcome all the info as its a big help - I cannot think of everything as has been proved several times!!

That's a nice looking fan - is it Global's own brand or an independent manufacturer?

**Radar** · 21-03-2018, 07:43 AM

Hi Thai Dhupp. I have just returned to your thread after weeks away and find it quite magnificent. Your honesty & integrity in reporting on your build has been instrumental in the number of responses from very well meaning readers. Congrats & best wishes for your continued success. As I get closer to my build I will be sure to make contact as your builder is proving to be a god send.

**Thai Dhupp** · 21-03-2018, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Radar

Hi Thai Dhupp. I have just returned to your thread after weeks away and find it quite magnificent. Your honesty & integrity in reporting on your build has been instrumental in the number of responses from very well meaning readers. Congrats & best wishes for your continued success. As I get closer to my build I will be sure to make contact as your builder is proving to be a god send.

Hi Radar and thanks for your kind words of encouragement. I hope this will be an informative thread for everyone setting out on the build journey.

Yeah.. so far (apart from the phot0-issue with the slab pour!!) the builder has been excellent. I'm sure he will be glad to hear we are all rooting for him!!

I have told him he is being followed by many on the internet thread so that might also keep him on track - probably not needed though as he has a wealth of experience AND equipment and his pricing is very competitive for the standard of work.

**Thai Dhupp** · 21-03-2018, 06:22 PM

First Floor ring beam shutter base and supports

Standing in the master bedroom, looking through dressing room and en-suite. below is dining room and office

View to kitchen with bedroom 2 above

Dining room folding doors, with covered open area to the right.

Standing in bedroom 2, with kitchen below, and looking towards master bedroom suite with office and dining room below

Standing between bedroom 2 en-suite and living room, looking towards master bedroom suite

Dining room with master bedroom balcony above

Looking from rear of house into covered open area. Actually, Zone 3 will ultimately be built next to the open area

Next comes the beam steel...

**Thai Dhupp** · 21-03-2018, 06:54 PM

Shutter floor and steel cage fitting

**Loy Toy** · 21-03-2018, 07:32 PM

Looking good mate.

Really good and good for you Dhupp.

Enjoy the journey.

**Thai Dhupp** · 22-03-2018, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Looking good mate.

Really good and good for you Dhupp.

Enjoy the journey.

I am enjoying it LT, just wish I was there right now. Finally you can see the shape and location of the rooms

All that hard work I did coming up with the design, sketching and re-sketching it, handing that to the draftsman and finally getting an engineer to sign off and the approval being granted, has turned my design concept into usable plans and, at last a tangible structure.

It is a good feeling to see your idea become a reality.

LOL... hope to god I did not fu... mess up at the start!

**Norton** · 22-03-2018, 01:36 PM

Will be exactly as good as your drawings

**Dead Metal** · 22-03-2018, 06:08 PM

Hi again TD, I have followed a number of builds on here but none have come close to the high standard of your builder (IMHO).
Its a standard you'd expect from a big company site. Everything is so professional looking in the way he tackles each segment of the build.

Q. How high will your ceilings be ?

Q. Where will your clothes drying area be ?

Q. Where will your gas bottles be located ? ( the outside of your kitchen wall perhaps ?)
Will they have their own little house perhaps ?

Very enjoyable read, inspirational. Thanks

**Dead Metal** · 22-03-2018, 06:12 PM

The clothes drying area may seem a stupid Q. but it has to be tackled sooner or later.

I was thinking of putting ours between the house and the garage under well ventilated cover, to keep the Sun off them.

**Thai Dhupp** · 22-03-2018, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Dead Metal

Hi again TD, I have followed a number of builds on here but none have come close to the high standard of your builder (IMHO).
Its a standard you'd expect from a big company site. Everything is so professional looking in the way he tackles each segment of the build.

Q. How high will your ceilings be ?

Q. Where will your clothes drying area be ?

Q. Where will your gas bottles be located ?( the outside of your kitchen wall perhaps ?)
Will they have their own little house perhaps ?

Very enjoyable read, inspirational. Thanks

Hi DM, sure, lets have a look at your questions...

Q. How high will your ceilings be ?

Ceilings will be a minimum 3m tall. I say minimum because, for the upper rooms , some might have the cathedral -type extension, up, maybe taking them to 3.5m+. There is a large, tall void space in that Ayutthaya roof.

Q. Where will your clothes drying area be ?

Ahh yes.. clothes drying! well...initially, it will be in the 10m x 8m open area under the living room - the ground floor of zone 2. However, we will probably create a small walled area out of sight, behind zone 2, and away from the pedestrian walk round to the house entrance.

Q. Where will your gas bottles be located ?

This one is simple. No gas. No bottles. No requirement. We will not be having gas in the house. The cooking for PJ outside, when she does it, will be traditional, with the charcoal, she likes it.

Inside the kitchen we are having an induction hob as its a smooth, clean line in the work top, and as we know, induction cooking brings the highest energy efficiency, something like 80-85% efficient, against gas 45% (heat lot of air with gas) and the speed of gas.

I have used induction in the UK for many years, and I even have a very good 4-ring induction hob in my Dubai apartment right now.

The plus is, induction keeps your pans from blackening over time, with the soot you get from gas.

This is all before we consider the fire / explosion potential from gas. Having once been blown backwards while lighting a faulty gas oven in Oman, its an experience I do not want any of my family to repeat!

**Dead Metal** · 22-03-2018, 11:24 PM

Silly me ! Induction, of course . Since I was a babe its been Gas , never considered Induction because I never needed to.

I think that is probrably the best idea, will run that one past the wife, but I can say that I'm sold on the idea for all the reasons you have highlighted .

This is exactly why we need these forums to become better informed and make the right choices, thanks for that Thai Dhupp.

**Thai Dhupp** · 23-03-2018, 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by Norton

Will be exactly as good as your drawings

Wait! That looks even better than my design!! theres still time to change....

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