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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    Thanks AP2, appreciate the comment.

    Isn't the two tank system with borehole water and city water the same as a two tank system with rain harvested and city? .
    I have one tank that feeds the house, one that feeds the "garden" so only one piping system inside the house rather than two as you are going to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
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    We compost because our soil is very sandy and the added nutrients and water holding capacity is needed..
    I think this is a very good point, we compost whatever we can which means what is thrown out is minimum, all food scraps are either eaten by the dogs or composted, the "composter" is used daily and positioned to be usable! if you compost correctly there are no odors involved, it actually smells 'sweet" !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    I have one tank that feeds the house, one that feeds the "garden" so only one piping system inside the house rather than two as you are going to do.
    Ahh ok...are your tanks underground or surface-installed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    I think this is a very good point, we compost whatever we can which means what is thrown out is minimum, all food scraps are either eaten by the dogs or composted, the "composter" is used daily and positioned to be usable! if you compost correctly there are no odors involved, it actually smells 'sweet" !
    We will also be doing this rather than filling garbage bags unnecessarily. Put the goodness back in the land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    Ahh ok...are your tanks underground or surface-installed?
    As I mentioned, just to think how to clean it - even not so often.

    Just this morning I disconnected from in/outgoing pipes one of my two 1,500 L plastic tanks collecting rain water (for feeding my fish pond) and cleaned the mud collected inside over some 4 years.

    No way to get the heavy black mud out off the drain outlet by spraying from the top (there is always 5 cm water staying at the bottom and the mud either), had to turn it upside down and crawl under the opening to spray inside, moving the monster around to get it all spilt out - a really enjoyable work...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    Ahh ok...are your tanks underground or surface-installed?
    Surface, I like to keep anything that has to be maintained easily accessible, cleaning out an underground tank is not pleasant, takes 5 minutes to clean surface tanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    As I mentioned, just to think how to clean it - even not so often.

    Just this morning I disconnected from in/outgoing pipes one of my two 1,500 L plastic tanks collecting rain water (for feeding my fish pond) and cleaned the mud collected inside over some 4 years.

    No way to get the heavy black mud out off the drain outlet by spraying from the top (there is always 5 cm water staying at the bottom and the mud either), had to turn it upside down and crawl under the opening to spray inside, moving the monster around to get it all spilt out - a really enjoyable work...

    Quote Originally Posted by Airporttwo View Post
    Surface, I like to keep anything that has to be maintained easily accessible, cleaning out an underground tank is not pleasant, takes 5 minutes to clean surface tanks.
    yep... I can see the sense, just wondered if anyone was going the u/g route because of aesthetics.

    Not everyone wants a garden full of tanks! (except perhaps Kim-Jong Un)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    takes 5 minutes to clean surface tanks.
    5 minutes? I have got one more (on surface) to clean. May I invite you to help me? My post before yours...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    Not everyone wants a garden full of tanks!
    Often there are seen much more disturbing things than a good functional object...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    just wondered if anyone was going the u/g route because of aesthetics
    I went under ground. Relatively small plot and having tank above ground aesthetically displeasing. Cleaning is more difficult than above ground but not that much more. Pump out water, have small villager go inside and scrub it down. Get BiL's septic tank pump truck to suck up residual water. Different suction hose than the one he uses for septic tanks.

    Clean it every couple years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Often there are seen much more disturbing things than a good functional object...
    LOL I suppose I could grow a bush around it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Different suction hose than the one he uses for septic tanks.
    Lol I hope so, Norton... does he have some coloured twine on the 'good' pipe, just to make sure its does not get mixed up!?

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    One thing I have noticed, and I also noticed it before earlier in the thread when I was talking about rainfall and how to use grey water (remember, I was thinking of combining grey and black water residue and watering the garden with it? ok not the best idea!)

    ....everyone has strong views and also a lot of experience when we are talking all things 'water'. This comes out loud and clear from the discussions.

    Tanks, pumps, pressure, drain fields, soakaways, boreholes, overhead tanks, centrally heated, locally heated, solar heated, grey lines, black lines, etc etc... we have covered a lot on water but thats because its a big topic to cover. I have found it fascinating and a great learning experience. Cetainly there are things I planned to do that, because of advice and experience, I will not now do.

    Its good if its aired here, not everyone does exactly the same but between us, for me and any future would-be-builders, there should be enough information to make an informed choice that's 'right for you'

    Again, the power of the forum - thanks all.
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    Luckily it was filled for them from the skip


    Topping up when the skip had been, and even filling the shutter from scratch.


    I think they serve the rice the same way, down in the Chonburi Hilton...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    5 minutes? I have got one more (on surface) to clean. May I invite you to help me? My post before yours...
    Unfortunately I have to decline your kind offer to assist due to acute laziness and aversion to work!
    You have highlighted one of the reasons I don't collect rainwater, mine get a light coating of fine solids on the bottom, easy to wash out in 5 minutes or soooo.....
    Well water has a 30 micron filter before going into tank, city water has no filter TDS is surprisingly good at around 100.

    One thing worth checking on the water systems is the PH, water here tends to be quite acidic, you find out fairly quickly which water fittings are "quality"!

    I don't find the surface tanks to be aesthetically ugly, they are necessary, if they are well plumbed in and piping neat and orderly = "industrial chic" my background is in construction, doubtless affects my view point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    I don't find the surface tanks to be aesthetically ugly, they are necessary, if they are well plumbed in and piping neat and orderly = "industrial chic" my background is in construction, doubtless affects my view point.
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My background is in fashion design so our beholding eyes have a different view.

    Anyway, nuff about water now that TD has politely suggested he would like to carry on building the house.

    Carry on TD.

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    WP-155Q5 pump.

    https://www.mitsubishi-kyw.co.th/Pro...-Pump/924.aspx

    I have single storey house with 8 hot/cold mixer faucets. The pump gives plenty of pressure.

    Have an electric boiler hot water heater. 100 liter.

    ???????????????????????????? ???? EHS | Stiebel Eltron

    Thanks Norton for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    does he have some coloured twine on the 'good' pipe, just to make sure its does not get mixed up!?
    Never seen such "subtle distinction" on the pipes of septic trucks coming to do the smelly business.

    Anyway, to be spared of "good/bad pipes dilemma", for a good dirt sucking of u/g tank, perhaps a simple submersible pump (Daewoo) for 1,200 Baht in Big C or similar be a better (and sure) solution...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post


    Anyway, nuff about water now that TD has politely suggested he would like to carry on building the house..
    Can we do windows and doors next? I like to rant about them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    Can we do windows and doors next? I like to rant about them!
    Let me get the walls up first, AP2!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennis4558 View Post
    WP-155Q5 pump.

    https://www.mitsubishi-kyw.co.th/Pro...-Pump/924.aspx

    I have single storey house with 8 hot/cold mixer faucets. The pump gives plenty of pressure.

    Have an electric boiler hot water heater. 100 liter.

    ???????????????????????????? ???? EHS | Stiebel Eltron

    Thanks Norton for the info.
    Again useful for the reference.. cheers!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    Unfortunately I have to decline your kind offer to assist due to acute laziness and aversion to work!
    You have highlighted one of the reasons I don't collect rainwater, mine get a light coating of fine solids on the bottom, easy to wash out in 5 minutes or soooo.....
    Well water has a 30 micron filter before going into tank, city water has no filter TDS is surprisingly good at around 100.

    One thing worth checking on the water systems is the PH, water here tends to be quite acidic, you find out fairly quickly which water fittings are "quality"!

    I don't find the surface tanks to be aesthetically ugly, they are necessary, if they are well plumbed in and piping neat and orderly = "industrial chic" my background is in construction, doubtless affects my view point.
    I am also in 'construction' but I like the idea of clean lines and great views. I will have to consider where I can hide a tank / tanks, but equally I can see a benefit as described, long term with the cleaning arrangements.

    I wondered about pH too... does anyone 'treat' their water if it is too acidic / alkalii?

    I would imagine acidic water could play havoc with some fixtures and fittings, even the tank itself if not, but maybe its negligable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    Let me get the walls up first, AP2!!!
    Folks tend to put in far too many windows here & end up living in a greenhouse, obviously you need some light, but not direct sunlight, worth thinking about....

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