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    Small Diesel Generator

    I am in the market to purchase a small 5-10KW diesel generator. My parameters are quiet running, dependability, ease of maintenance and cost. I have seen several models in Udon Thani that appear to be either Chinese or Korean. Does anyone have experience using a quiet, decent diesel generator or have recommendations for a particular brand or model?

    These electrical blackouts have finally gotten to me.

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    Especially this time of year. Feel for ya.

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    Mine is the best piece of essential household kit I ever bought, however it's neither diesel nor quiet.

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    You probably have a fair amount of outages Davis. What size is your gen set, and what are you able to run off of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Especially this time of year. Feel for ya.
    Are you in the States AO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    You probably have a fair amount of outages Davis. What size is your gen set, and what are you able to run off of it?
    I run a six-bedroom, two-story large house, and two outbuildings. I do unplug one of the iceboxes and the freezer when it's on, and don't use AC (which I almost never use in any case). Runs for 14 hours no problem, with a short gas it up break. It's 9KW, but during the day, when we have the most outages, it's only powering a few fans, fish tanks, Tv's, computers and the water pump and two iceboxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Are you in the States AO?
    Nope sweltering with you here but in Don Muang.

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    How are you going to reconcile the fact that it needs to be as far from the house as possible (due to noise/fumes), but at the same time proof against being stolen by the local cowboys ?

    Perhaps building a tiny breeze block shed would solve both probs ?

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    I have a couple of choices for placement. One is out in the old kitchen that was added onto the carport when we also added a large kennel and is lockable. The second is on our large patio where we can easily build a lockable brick enclosure. The former is my first choice since it is away from the house and well ventilated.

    From Davis' explanation, something like a 10KW gen would be needed since I want to run 1 AC, fridge/freezer, lights and 1 TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    I have a couple of choices for placement. One is out in the old kitchen that was added onto the carport when we also added a large kennel and is lockable. The second is on our large patio where we can easily build a lockable brick enclosure. The former is my first choice since it is away from the house and well ventilated.

    From Davis' explanation, something like a 10KW gen would be needed since I want to run 1 AC, fridge/freezer, lights and 1 TV.
    10KW should be more than adequate.

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    Some good info about genset's in Thailand on this site.

    An introduction to Generators in Thailand

    I see that they had an update in 2012, so not sure if they are still in business.

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    Thanks Davis. I should have purchased one of the 10KW diesel generators I saw at Tool Pro awhile back for 45K. I did not recognize the make, so I hesitated. What make is your 5K Davis and any problems with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barty View Post
    Some good info about genset's in Thailand on this site.

    An introduction to Generators in Thailand

    I see that they had an update in 2012, so not sure if they are still in business.
    Thanks Barty, I will take a look.

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    start with this
    Reviews of the Best Portable, Home & Diesel Generators | Generator Power Source

    then cross reference with amazon reviews

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    Thanks Davis. I should have purchased one of the 10KW diesel generators I saw at Tool Pro awhile back for 45K. I did not recognize the make, so I hesitated. What make is your 5K Davis and any problems with it?
    Mine is 9, not 5. No real problems. Had it for about 8 years. Don't know brand - some slanty-eye country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    start with this
    Reviews of the Best Portable, Home & Diesel Generators | Generator Power Source

    then cross reference with amazon reviews
    Thanks Baldrick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    Thanks Davis. I should have purchased one of the 10KW diesel generators I saw at Tool Pro awhile back for 45K. I did not recognize the make, so I hesitated. What make is your 5K Davis and any problems with it?
    Mine is 9, not 5. No real problems. Had it for about 8 years. Don't know brand - some slanty-eye country.
    Ha, I think that covers about all the gen sets that are available here in Thailand. I will research a few before I buy.

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    I was in Global House the other day and they had a good amount of Diesel generators there. I haven't heard of the name but they where around 35,000 Baht + depending on KW. 10 would be good for your home and run 1 A/C. They also had one with a built in Welder.

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    We always used Kobota gensets at work for light-duty power (under 10kva) in remote locations and they must have been ok or the Mechs wouldn't have kept them around for long. I remember they were Diesel, reliable, quiet, and could handle hot weather.

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    Kubota is a good brand as is Cummins, Honda and a few others. I have been doing some research and it appears many expats have backup gen sets. I will be looking this week.
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    Does it have to be a diesel generator and do you really need such a powerful one ? Diesel generators are very noisy and many are inferior Chinese products.

    May I suggest that you sit down with pen and paper and calculate the electricity output you really need ? Ever increasing fuel costs in the UK have made me opt for LED television and low voltage lighting in an effort to reduce costs. Electricity is a lot cheaper in Thailand but people still look for more energy efficient appliances and one hardly ever sees a refrigerator in Thailand which does not have a sticker saying how cheap it is to run.

    If you live in a big house with many air conditioned rooms then a correspondingly high output generator may be necessary. Is it just possible that you could manage on this one

    Honda EU3000iS Model Info | Super Quiet 3000 Watt Inverter Generator | Honda Generators

    My advice is to buy a high quality product rather than a high output one of dubious manufacture.

    I know that this particular generator will be more than enough for our place.

    The model would be slightly differents as it would need to run a 240 volt system but Hondas I have seen have a switch to change between 120 and 240 Volts.
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    One thing that hasn't been mentioned is what type of power do you want Pure sine wave ~ gennys are expensive 2 -3 times the cost of a Modified sine wave AKA Quasi Sine or Square wave ⎴ .
    Modififed sine wave has been known to shorten the life of electronics like computers tv's also old style fluorescent lighting the ballast over heat I've noticed and I have a friend who uses a MS genny and said his drills ( that's all it's used for) are only lasting 6 months using daily for work when they would last for years.

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    ^ Bit over my head with the terminology there, but my experience has been the same with gen-sets that run on an incompatible frequency to what appliances I'm using.

    50 or 60 herts I mean. Laptops are fine with it, most personal chargers & tv's, gaming consoles etc... But home appliances, power tools, etc... are not. Home alarm clocks don't work very well running on the wrong frequency.

    A thing to look at as well. Thailand is 50 Hz. Japan has both 50 and 60 Hz etc...

    Food for thought.

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    Whatever the answer, quality is best.

    As long as it doesn't get "lent" to a relative by the wife, next time he's away

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    Quick read might help explain my above post better.

    http://www.rpc.com.au/pdf/sine_&_squ...lectricity.pdf

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