Thread: Small Diesel Generator

5.5kw for 19,000 baht or 6.5kw for 52,000 baht

Thats a tuffy but PERSONALLY if it was in budget I would really go for the 6.5kw

Thats a hard one cause there is such a huge difference in price.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Seems to me it was around 52K with the ATS.

Is this the price for the generator plus the ATS, please ? Or, is the price for a generator only , one which has a connector for an ATS ?

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

I am just curious to know what I can get away with without going too big

A box of candles, a couple Odoris and UPS battery backup to keep your handphone charged. Light, cooling and tv.
Or

Originally Posted by baldrick

the 5.5 will be fine

Originally Posted by Digby Fantona

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Seems to me it was around 52K with the ATS.

Is this the price for the generator plus the ATS, please ? Or, is the price for a generator only , one which has a connector for an ATS ?

That is with the ATS, built in.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

I just can't believe a 6.5KVA generator wont do what I am thinking about, but I'm no expert.

Im not either and a 6.5kva unit may very well get you where you need to go

Originally Posted by Slick

5.5kw for 19,000 baht

30.000 it was


I'd go for the 8.5KVA in order to have some spare capacity.
It's always nice to have water pressure in the house during a power cut and being able to pump up more water from your well.
Your missus may appreciate being able to use the 700W rice-cooker.

Originally Posted by lom

30.000 it was

I thought he said 19k

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

That is with the ATS, built in.

The ATS is normally a box/panel on a wall which allows individual connections to different appliances. It will have a switch which only allows generator current or main supply current to be used at a given moment. I think your generator has a connector which enables it to be linked to such a panel. The panels available in the UK are very expensive, almost as much as the cheapest generators.

My well is dry, so that pump is no longer running. I have a 2000L water tank next to the house that has a direct line into the master shower. When the power is of we still have a gravity fed shower.

The 8.5KVA was a little over 50,000 baht.

Originally Posted by Slick

5.5kw for 19,000 baht or 6.5kw for 52,000 baht

Buy the 5.5kw @19k baht. Try it out. If not enough buy another (or smaller) giving you 11kw for 38k baht.
More power and far cheaper than the 6.5kw unit.

Originally Posted by Slick

Originally Posted by lom

30.000 it was

I thought he said 19k

19,600 baht for the 6.5KVA

Originally Posted by Norton

Buy the 5.5kw @19k baht. Try it out. If not enough buy another (or smaller) giving you 11kw for 38kw. More power and far cheaper than the 6.5kw unit.

If you opt for this you have to ensure that the generators have connectors to allow them to be coupled and buy a coupling cable.

Originally Posted by Digby Fantona

If you opt for this you have to ensure that the generators have connectors to allow them to be coupled and buy a coupling cable.

Different circuits and no problem.

Originally Posted by Digby Fantona

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

That is with the ATS, built in.

The ATS is normally a box/panel on a wall which allows individual connections to different appliances. It will have a switch which only allows generator current or main supply current to be used at a given moment. I think your generator has a connector which enables it to be linked to such a panel. The panels available in the UK are very expensive, almost as much as the cheapest generators.

There are two models of the EC8500CXS. One that is just a generator priced at around 45,000 baht and the second that advertises ATS (Automatic Transfer System) that is around 53,000 baht. I was assuming the ATS panel was built in.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

One that is just a generator priced at around 45,000 baht

This is what I would go for and make my own kit & just flip some switches.

Originally Posted by Digby Fantona

If you opt for this you have to ensure that the generators have connectors to allow them to be coupled and buy a coupling cable.

I'll take your word on this but why can't the generators be wired into the various circuits as needed. Example: one for air con and tv, one for fridges and lights.?

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

I was assuming the ATS panel was built in.

No, the panel goes on the wall and connections corresponding to the different appliances used must be made. It would be way beyond my powers to so such a thing. Unfortunately, having seen some crazy electrical practices in Thailand I would have little faith in the ability of a Thai electrician to do the job properly.

I will be in Thailand in a few weeks and will be able to have lots of spare time for looking at this sort of stuff.

You mentioned a well. We have one on our property but my mother in law filled it in because it was possible for ghosts to live in it. I have a few things to sort out

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Originally Posted by Slick

Originally Posted by lom

30.000 it was

I thought he said 19k

19,600 baht for the 6.5KVA

The Chumsin web site linked to said 30.000...
19.600 is a suspiciously low price like they really want to get rid of them.
Buy the 8.5KVA without transfr switch.

Anyway, you get my jist. Two may be better and cheaper than one big bugger.

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by Digby Fantona

If you opt for this you have to ensure that the generators have connectors to allow them to be coupled and buy a coupling cable.

I'll take your word on this but why can't the generators be wired into the various circuits as needed. Example: one for air con and tv, one for fridges and lights.?

You would end up with a complicated array of wires and need two transfer panels linked to appliances. Because you need a switch to ensure that both mains and generator power cannot operate at the same time, it would be very difficult to ensure this if two generator panels were used. So, they combine the power with a coupling cable and the two generators then function as one and need only one panel.

Originally Posted by lom

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Originally Posted by Slick

Originally Posted by lom

30.000 it was

I thought he said 19k

19,600 baht for the 6.5KVA

The Chumsin web site linked to said 30.000...
19.600 is a suspiciously low price like they really want to get rid of them.
Buy the 8.5KVA without transfr switch.

Hmmmm, the DoHome link that Slick posted said 21,430 baht.

Maybe I should go check out DoHome tomorrow.

Thanks everyone for your input. This is one of the reasons I like TD, other than sparing with a few unnamed members.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Digby, take a look at the picture on this link. What does the ATS in parentheses mean?

SAKARI EC-8500CXS Gasoline Generator, 6.5KVA (Automatic)

http://www.wuthardware.com/store/pro...254132-th.html

I believe this is the socket into which is placed a wire which connects it to the ATS panel. If I am correct, it would be better termed as an output as it is this which provides to power to the panel.


How a Control System Works within an Automatic Transfer Switch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_switch