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    leaking air con causing arguments

    Seems to be a week for house problems, first toilet inlet valve which I fixed with a new one, then the blocked drain now time to tackle the air con fault. It's a mitsubishi heavy duty 4 years old so the compressor is still under warranty.
    For a couple of years when it's cleaned it needs topping up with gas, I know the guy is not lying as it gets less and less cold. Guy who does the cleaning says it's not leaking, I think he's an idiot as the gas is not used up and only needs topping up if it IS leaking, bit like a fridge.

    Lately it's been not running very cold again and makes a right racket at times. Obviously I think time to get the experts in and not some idiot with a screwdriver but the mrs is dead against this dreadful waste of cash and already turned up with said idiot from round the corner who could not fix his own and actually asked me to look at his. I would not let him touch ours. Mrs does not believe me and backs up her argument by consulting her mates who all seem to have noisy or leaking units so hey no problem after all.

    Anyone had similar problems?, with the A/C that is, we all know Thai women are mad, did anyone ever get the Mitsubishi team in ? Think i'll have them in at the risk of further arguments, i'll be paying of course I think they charge about 1500 to come out, or I could get a Thai to tell the mrs somebody cursed it and the only people who can lift it are Mitsubishi themselves If anyone thinks it's trivial arguing about A/C we have even argued about crossing the road, if it's raining or not or what time to leave the house.

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    ta i'll have a look

    oh the Terry thread, read that at the time, cleaning not leaking. We pay 250 baht for cleaning, well there's not much to it and only takes 30 minutes.

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    Have the only aircon in our village, 3 units, was 4 once, rats, mice killed one.
    Have to pay a guy to come 70 km to maintain them, closer guys, cheaper, but have no idea what they are doing.
    When it comes to electric stuff, the village idiot is cheap, long term he costs more, get a real aircon guy, cheaper long term.

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    'ditto' to jc. If it's not leaking why does it constantly need topping up?

    Has it not struck you that the a/c cleaner, who says it's fine, is apparently the same guy who is happily topping it up?

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    Yes. I found a good bloke once who did a very good install job and knew what his team was doing so I said I only wanted him or someone he recommended from here on in.

    check out the people used by the seller's of air con units as they usually have a good installer on hand as it will Minimise warranty claims

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    I actually thought I had a good a/c servicer / cleaner, etc until he was away and we needed the a/c cleaned, re-gassed, etc.

    The guys who we got to do it instead didn't say it in so many words, but it was pretty clear that the original team servicing the a/c had been deliberately been doing a poor job so that we would have to re-gas more often, etc. It wasn't just the 'village idiot' doing a crummy job, it was a deliberate scam.

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    Why arguing ? Is it her who pays ? Anyway if it was me she would just shut up or go back to her bar / village Thai exshit / rice farm, or anywhere she belongs !

    They can fix leaks.
    - The first thing they normally do is change the copper piping. The piping causes most leaks. Soldering is a bad fix. Changing the piping is much better.
    - If that doesn't help they have to take both units (inside and outside) out and fill them with very high pressure nitrogen gass. They put the machines in water and check if they leak (air bubbles coming up in the water).

    About 80% of all all leaks can be fixed this way. For the remaining 20% you probably need to replace the whole (inside or outside) unit.

    A big leak (airco not cooling anymore within 1 day) can sometimes be found with water and detergent (checking for bubbles).
    If your airco leaks very slowly (not cooling anymore after more than 3 days) this method will almost never work. In this case you need to follow the steps above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick
    check out the people used by the seller's of air con units
    Ditto.

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    topping up an A/C with more gas ? only once or twice in 5 years, not after every clean

    someone is scamming you

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    No it's not a scam, if it's leaking and you can tell it is leaking when it starts to not run as cold. Also, he never topped up the other a/c only this one. They claim it's not leaking I think as then they would have to admit they cannot find it to fix leading to another scene where the incompetent Thai loses face, bless their stupid faces ! I think it's actually illegal in the US and EU to top up a system unless you have fixed the leak as the gas damages ozone. Here they continue with a toothy grin and tell you have no leak ac use up gas, twats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly94
    it is leaking when it starts to not run as cold.
    not necessarily, mine stop being cold when it's dirty and need cleaning, usually the filters

    once you clean the filters, it's very cold again

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    DF have it cleaned without a refill? Only costs 250-400 baht?

    Then make a decision based on what happens.

    Or Go to Tesco buy a can of A/C cleaner and a spray bottle. Clean it yourself and see if it works any better.

    Or if accessible aim a hose at the back of the outdoor bit and clean all the crud from the heat exchanger and see if it gets colder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly94
    i'll be paying of course I think they charge about 1500 to come out
    That seems like a fair price to me if it's for an expert (usually two of them) who are qualified and will do a good job. I pay that for an old fella (fully qualified) who comes around and takes most of the day to take it all apart, clean it all, fix and problems and top up some gas - and he's hard to get, in demand and usually charges 2000 baht. But, you shouldn't need that every time; once every couple of years then the 500 baht man to do a cleaning job every 6-12 months?
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    Mrs does not believe me and backs up her argument by consulting her mates
    i think it is your wife that is the bigger problem here.

    you need to assert your authority more..... and possibly arrange for her to be de-gassed.

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    I have the exact same problem with a Mitsubishi air conditioner. Mine is 18,000 btu and used to cool the master bedroom. It has been fair at best since we bought it 5 years ago. I think I have now determined that it simply gets dirty very fast indeed. If I have it cleaned at 400baht a pop 3 times a year not a problem one.

    If not and I think "oh its fine this time" it will start to howl and sometimes drip and fail to cool within 4.5 to 5 months. I never believe how dirty is has become. My thought is we have mango, jackfruit and banana trees around the house and it must be pollen.

    Got mine cleaned on Thursday and now its damn cold and quite. Repeat in October and all will be well. Good luck with the wife we all know you will never win. One of the admirable traits of a Thai bride.

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    well the mitsu guys are coming on Friday much against her indoors wishes. Cost is an horrendous 690 baht call out, it's still under warranty but apparently it's a 'waste of money'. They are all idiots of course but you stand a better chance with a trained one, not the mrs you can never train them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly94
    well the mitsu guys are coming on Friday much against her indoors wishes. Cost is an horrendous 690 baht call out, it's still under warranty but apparently it's a 'waste of money'. They are all idiots of course but you stand a better chance with a trained one, not the mrs you can never train them
    She is going to learn a lesson. But sadly even with the most educated Thai women who have never lived abroad she will not admit it.

    Quiet about it. Happy that it works so much better, better mood because it does, but at the same time. No " honey you were right thanks so much now we know what is wrong.".

    A cultural difference that is very hard to accept. Just accept the room is cooler, you are cooler, the wife is cooler and the situation is cooler. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly94
    well the mitsu guys are coming on Friday much against her indoors wishes. Cost is an horrendous 690 baht call out, it's still under warranty but apparently it's a 'waste of money'. They are all idiots of course but you stand a better chance with a trained one, not the mrs you can never train them
    She is going to learn a lesson. But sadly even with the most educated Thai women who have never lived abroad she will not admit it.
    I think I had been living here for about 5 years before I found out that Thais actually do have an expression for "I am sorry".

    Still not a phrase I hear used often.

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    ^ I thought kartod was sorry

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    "excuse me" is so much closer.

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    went to immigration recently, I said get off at the exit no 15 on the express way, no it's not says she it's 16, got a bit heated with her screaming 'I know more than you shut up' I was most amused when we got off at 16 and all in the car realized I was right. For once she did say sorry, but as usual had an excuse, so not really her fault, I think it was the fault of the rain that time. Of course if they say nothing much wrong with the air con on Friday i will 'have a problem'

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg
    I think I had been living here for about 5 years before I found out that Thais actually do have an expression for "I am sorry".
    Bollox!

    No way.

    Double bollox; Thais do not say sorry, ever...

    The wife, obviously never says sorry, but after being proven very wrong, as long as I don't go on about it, rub it in or even mention it, might buy me something nice from the market or make an extra nice meal - that's as close as I've ever seen or heard as an apology from a Thai.

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    ^ They don't accept them either do they?

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