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    Conserving energy on a home in the LOS...

    Okay, so now I am planning on building a home either in BKK or upcountry. What sort of designs or ideas can I come up with to save me money on monthly utilities? Basically, I am concerned with electricity and water.

    Is it even possible?

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    Water's cheap if it's a residence. Hotels and guesthouses pay a much higher premium. Most hotels and GH here (CM) use ground water. Good water filtering systems are not cheap, and may take a long time to pay off. The hotels and apartments here use areation and rock/sand filters.
    The concrete/brick home are usally cooler in the day and tend to release their stored heat at night and can be uncomfortable to sleep without air. Keeping them to a single floor helps. The coolest place in the raised, wood home is underneath, if you dig the lower floor below grade and build the house with broad overhangs you can remain cool(er) without air. The coolest room I ever spent a night in was about 4 foot below grade & built of concrete. the kitchen/living area was on the upper floor with wide overhangs and had a couple of lazy ceiling fans; comforatble place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hillbilly
    Okay, so now I am planning on building a home either in BKK or upcountry. What sort of designs or ideas can I come up with to save me money on monthly utilities? Basically, I am concerned with electricity and water.

    Is it even possible?
    Do you want to buy the Mother-in-laws place Hilly?
    She don't have water or electricity

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    Actually, I own my home here in BKK. But ,I was thinking about my retirement home upcountry. Maybe I'll let the mother-in-law come over to water my plants and shower.

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    Passive cooling.

    If your interested in keeping a house cool, or at least livable, without using Air 24/7, you need to make sure that your design opimizes passive cooling. While there are many things that can make a house hotter or cooler, the three that seem to matter most are shade, ventalation and orientation.

    If you google passive cooling or passive solar cooling you can find lots of info.

    One more thing that is rarely mentioned is color. Different colors absorb or reflect heat at different rates. The hottest roofs will be black or RED, the coolest will be white or blue. A house with a light blue roof, wide eaves, and large windows facing north and east will tend to be fairly cool. As ff pointed out, a partially buried house can be cooler, but a slab with air circulating underneath can also cool off fairly quickly at night.

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    Hi all, here is my first post.

    Insulation is perhaps the most important aspect of passive cooling. You will save a bundle and dramatically improve your indoor quality with well insulated upper floor ceilings and roof if possible. A double layer cold vented roof is ideal. See the following thread on another forum for a dicussion of another type of roof venting (easily retrofitted to an existing roof as well) and insulation is also discussed:

    http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=48977

    Well insulated walls are also a must. People tend to forget the value of insulation in a warm climate.

    Also see the following thread for information on a very inexpensive yet highly effective Chinese solar hot water heater. I am researching now to see about bringing these into Thailand or finding them if they are already available in Thailand:

    http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=51581

    As well as normal hot water needs you could use this for heating a pool or if in an area that gets cold at night tie some sort of simple radiator into this as well.

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    When I build my place I'm puttin' in a goddam fireplace!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by friscofrankie
    When I build my place I'm puttin' in a goddam fireplace!!!!!!
    Bladdy wuss!

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    Come up here and say that! (brinig your thick socks) if I wanted miserable, cold misty fucking weather I'da moved to the fucking UK, or Seattle!

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    I don't know frankie.
    It's just got a bit milder today don't you think.

    I've got no money and i am extremely tempted to pop down to the ATM.

    Yesterday i wasa happy to stay broke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by friscofrankie
    if I wanted miserable, cold misty fucking weather I'da moved to the fucking UK, or Seattle!
    Exactly! Saying that, I've just been to breakfast wearing a big jumper. I don't know how these tourists can sit outside in shorts & T-shirts.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    I've got no money and i am extremely tempted to pop down to the ATM.
    Why buy a dog and bark yourself? Send the missus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite
    Why buy a dog and bark yourself? Send the missus
    No can do.
    No way does she get to see how much is in my account.

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    Good point mate.

    I've got 2 buttons, a piece of string and some elastic bands in my account.

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    Insulation is the key. Not only in the ceilings, but in the walls as well. Also its not beautiful but thermo pane glass is a big help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AO
    Insulation is the key. Not only in the ceilings, but in the walls as well.
    Wish i had some in the floor, that's where I've been sleeping for the last 3 days.

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    I thought you and your wife got on well. I am in the dog house big time when I am on the floor!!

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    I'm in the dog house big time when my galfriend is sleeping on the floor

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    Hahahaha! Fools the lot of you!

    I NEVER sleep on the floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiang Mai Noon
    I don't know frankie.
    It's just got a bit milder today don't you think.
    Helluva lot nicer today. Been out and about the past three hours it's was better. Still, getting in the car after it's been parked for an hour or so was nice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    don't know how these tourists can sit outside in shorts & T-shirts.
    Don;t i know it? They're every where here! knobby knees, tee-shirts; waiing everything that breathes.
    I like tellin 'em that temple dogs are sacred and that by waiing them you show the highest regard for the temple monks and Buddha....

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    yea...that's all fine and nice, but none of you I bet (in BKK at least) is using a heavy blanket while sleeping - fan/aircon of course on off!

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    plus got to get up 3 times at night now with this blady cold because the booze iz comming more out of my pecker rather than me pores

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    Two blanket/comforters, air off, windows that close tightly shut and heavy drapes drawn. 'Course this ain't BKK!!!

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    Running my kids air on 23 to keep them from getting cold and this is Bangkok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by in4zip
    yea...that's all fine and nice, but none of you I bet (in BKK at least) is using a heavy blanket while sleeping - fan/aircon of course on off!
    I have a nice shuggly duvet, but some of you guys are a tad colder than we are here in BKK. My personal bed warmer is no bladdy good though - she's got feet like blocks of ice. The floor beckons if she doesn't keep them away from me tonight....

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    hell you could set up a tent with her knickers

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