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    You need a crane, this I believe is a big one 11 ton, cost 3500 for the days work.



    Bucket for concrete to get the job done.



    Starting with the first pour.



    Getting the job done. Finished for the day.

    interlude, checking out the ricebarn parts.




    The forms are on the post uprights ready to pour.

    and as if by magic......


    we have the finished posts.



    chisel level.





    a macro costs 2500 badt a helf day, the earth was 400 badt a truck.

    Problems with the land use meant we had to stop, so we turned are attentions to the front.


    continue on new post.
    im hot its so hot today.......milk was a bad choice!

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    Well that was quick, not finished but we need to underpin the floor with some metal beams. Then we can finish the inside walls clad in teak and inside will be a storage place.



    One from the back with double rainbows, the door is at the back but there are some things that need rearranging as it was was the common builder rule of dont think about what Im doing, just do it. Anyway not a major problem, just shift some floor boards up and move the steps.

    Back to the rice barn............


    Rebar all connected and ready for the form work, very hot dry days meant a break in work every 45 mins, but they got it done.



    closer look at the metal work.



    Forms are put on ready for the pour, the price I think was about 800 badt. Becuase the land is at the back we have no real access apart from someone elses land, we have to crane the concrete which added expense to the pour by about 8000 badt.



    Crane and bucket 4 man team of builders we managed about 3 hours with the delay of concrete trucks.


    For anyone in interested in the crane, this was a different comapny from the first as they were not available for the day we wanted to pour, no problems on time and did what they were supposed to.





    All poured.



    The left over was used for a terrace we are building on the back of the house, I will continue that thread with these pictures. 4 posts poured that will rise 1.60 from ground level the terrace will be an experiment of metal framework and smart board.

    Back again to the rice barn.........



    At this point we wanted to make sure we tried as best as possible to keep termites from entering the wood from below and installed pipes to pump chemical inside. I will also get someone to pour a chaindrite mix of SC30 along tranches around the perimeter of the concrete.



    We didnt get this done for the house and we have termites in the house in small areas, we have looked at a baiting system which should get rid of most of them, the cost for the house considering it is 22 meter long is 20,000 for the whole year and 10,000 a year after that in 3 years they think there should be no problem to the house.



    Once this was done the precast went on from PCC concrete, you can now start to see the shape we are trying to get with the downstairs which will mostly form a casual open lounging area and kitchen at the back.


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    It feels like ages since we've seen a nice conventional build .

    With rebars and concrete pours and all that !

    I'm enjoying this .




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    No bracing on those columns? I would use a big diameter PVC pipe as formwork for concrete columns and maybe even concrete beams connecting them and then wooden floor joists.
    But teak seems so cheap in thailand, how come? Is it really teak?

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    Nice pictures shared.

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    Pouring concrete from truck, wire mesh laid and forms put up. Termite pipes were installed for 6000 badt including first spray.


    All poured.



    Here you can see the concrete posts have been poured for the terrace extension to the house. concrete posts for the wood posts were poured using oil cans.
    wood is all laid out for the structure to go up. The rice barn was a great price and the wood in great condition.

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    first post going up...



    crane action.



    2 beams up and cross beam to go through to support.



    carefully maneuvering the cross beam along the hole.


    wide shot

    first one in and its good.



    2nd posts going on



    2nd cross beam

    3s are in position


    the last of the main posts are up

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    Whilst we hired the crane for a half day thats 4 hours, we need to get all the big stuff down. The crew worked hard and


    we got it done.


    The extension was commencing, but here is a good view of the rice barn. metal roof in double hip style. The wood framing sits in the cross beams and makes up the outside of the support for roof.



    roof on.

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    Coming along nicely, Ben!!

    Best towards your current project.

    Cheers....


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    Simply outstanding, the finished build will be incredible.

    Good luck.

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    I fear those metal straps coming up from the foundation wont be enough to keep the building from blowing over in a high wind storm. Did you have a engineer look over this. Storm rips apart trees, billboards & 20-million baht house | Bangkok Post: learning

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    Quote Originally Posted by runker View Post
    I fear those metal straps coming up from the foundation wont be enough to keep the building from blowing over in a high wind storm. Did you have a engineer look over this. Storm rips apart trees, billboards & 20-million baht house | Bangkok Post: learning
    Yes its noted, no engineer has had a look. But, something greater will be anchored to the foundation.
    We arent sure if we are going to build up around the bottom of the post with rounded brick that would be rendered and so this would mean putting bolts into the concrete and tying both through post and brick.
    Do you have any suggestions yourself?

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    Fantastic thread and build Ben.

    These threads I really enjoy.

    I bet you are having a lot of fun yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runker View Post
    I fear those metal straps coming up from the foundation wont be enough to keep the building from blowing over in a high wind storm. Did you have a engineer look over this. Storm rips apart trees, billboards & 20-million baht house | Bangkok Post: learning
    sorry, thinking about your message again. The reason why that house probably fell down, is because of poor structural bolting which happens in wood thai houses of new. The cross beams dont support the posts and sometimes are nailed and not bolted in various stress points. But I am also surprised that the house cost 20 million badt it looks more like 4 million at best, but that a side.
    This rice barn has cross beams that are 12" tall and 3" thick going through the center of the post. It has a lightweight metal woof not clay tile which makes a big difference. If a strong enough wind blew it, the cross beams should resist any lateral movement and the cross beams should stop any tipping of the structure.

    That being said we still plan to bolt it better to the base when we know how we are going to continue.

    Again, if you have any ideas im welcome to them?

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    A really interesting construction Ben .

    Best wishes with it .




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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    Fantastic thread and build Ben.

    These threads I really enjoy.

    I bet you are having a lot of fun yourself.
    Thanks loytoy!
    I really love building with wood, I like going to wood yards, the people are always friendly and dealing in hardwoods to build is a pleasure all round, with one caveat. I like the feel the smell and aesthetic.

    Termites. We have had termites enter the house over the last 5 years in various states. It has, this time done damage to a small portion of floor upstairs which needs replacing. we now have an active termite system in the house. This had come about for a couple of reasons, but hasnt disturbed too much my feelings of living in a wood house. It has however made me feel that anything I replace or use structurally in the future would be metal.

    This Guesthouse is one of a very few number of old rice barns intact, that were big enough to make into rice barns. There are a lot of old rice barns but not very many big enough to call home. We did see a beast in samkampaeng that was 12 x 8 meters a great price for the posts and wood, but in practice would have been too big a project.

    I have really narrowed my decisions about wood house building and hope to get this finished in the next 6 -12 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp View Post
    A really interesting construction Ben .

    Best wishes with it .




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    Thanks wasp, I will continue my main thread about the house as we have done a lot of alterations over the last 2 years. So please check that out too.

    More pics for this coming soon..

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    will update shortly

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    so have been busy and then come back and all the pictures have gone because of photocucket, i suppose its time to reupload and advance the story

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    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk View Post
    so have been busy and then come back and all the pictures have gone because of photocucket, i suppose its time to reupload and advance the story
    Hope that's the case, Ben.
    A shame that you lost those pics from those rat bastards at Photobucket.

    Concerning the subject matter - old school traditional teak - might be stimulating for some.

    Appreciate your other teak house thread!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    A shame that you lost those pics from those rat bastards at Photobucket.
    If you are using Firefox as your browser this Addon will restore the Photobucketr pictures:

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