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    If you are going to sell the house at cost then what's the point of building something hoping that someone else want's it???
    It's not going to increase the price of the land one bit.


    With road frontage and depth build 2 shophouses on it..



    or go back to the drawing board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp View Post
    Well we've got as far as a potential land purchase so maybe .............
    Potential land purchase?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp View Post
    I loaned the money to Missy .

    So Missy worked in England and paid me back each and every single little baht.
    The land was definitely worth the 240 000 .

    Investment . Bound to go up in price .

    Which it has …… but not enough .

    Anyway ........... this is the busy little road onto which the land fronts .


    And this was how the front of the land looked .



    Missy has spent money cleaning up this piece of land . Removed crap . Removed those bushes and trees .Trucked in soil ( dirt ) . Put up a sign .
    She's had some low offers ...... and also “ agents ” with definite buyers at a high price for an upfront commission. { Bollox }

    A good offer at 450 000 came in . From a sensible lady.
    Missy made the mistake of accepting the offer which made the lady deduce that she had offered too much and so she cancelled.
    I love a good housebuilding thread and I love a good story (and you are quite good at stories, Wasp), but this one, so far, is starting like a detective novel. Potential land purchase when the land has already been purchased?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    If you are going to sell the house at cost then what's the point of building something hoping that someone else want's it???
    It's not going to increase the price of the land one bit.


    With road frontage and depth build 2 shophouses on it..



    or go back to the drawing board.
    Location...

    Always be closing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    Always be closing.
    Jeff, it's a odd thing but I'd somehow never imagined you as this sort of person:



    To me you've always come across far more like this:



    It's a funny old world.

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    Neverna :I love a good housebuilding thread and I love a good story (and you are quite good at stories, Wasp), but this one, so far, is starting like a detective novel. Potential land purchase when the land has already been purchased?


    Well you were jumping in a bit quick .

    You can do a Thread in 2 pages if you like .

    Page 1. Here is the land we bought .

    Page 2. Here is the finished house.


    I know I can't do a Thread like Roobarb's , ootai , koman because I haven't done a build like that . I haven't got lorries delivering 7 metre piles or gangs twisting rebar into foundations . Not yet anyway . Hence all my questions about spaces between posts and depth for foundations of the same posts.

    I did a whole Thread about a fairly elaborate renovation starting with a timber shack when in fact the whole thing had been completed 6 years previously .
    It doesn't matter when these things happen . The story is the same story and with this new Thread I'm not going to be competing with stevefarang or Loombucket .

    And I'm not really competing with Bettyboo's 50 pages ( although it's only a paltry 32 pages on my screen ).

    You're missing the point . If you want a serious , high-grade construction build you just read terp.
    With me I have to start right beyond the point before buying the land if I'm going to tell the story completely . Koman and Roobs , Ootai and even Betty are the folks if you want to see constructions in detail . With guidance to the best colour for your water pump.
    Mine is simply a story which involves construction and a proper story has a beginning .

    And my beginning is why the land became available at all .

    With good wishes ....




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    Look at me thread page 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp
    Baitong Boy didn’t want to tell me anything
    Heh...Not my call, Wasp...Just some sage advice to our goat herder which he duly ignored...

    Love the thread and I'm honored to be on page 2...

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    nigelandjan...Look at me thread page 2


    I didn't understand this . Because on my computer I'm still on Page 1 .

    So I went to your Thread and looked at your Page 2 which was very enjoyable with its Lego bricks ... but I was still bewildered .
    And its difficult to bewilder me .

    Now Baiting Boy ( huh ! ) says that he's on Page 2 so maybe that's what your message meant n&j.

    I did enjoy reading your thread though so I think I'll go back and read it all again .

    And as for you BaitongBoy ........... you're going back in the BB box with BkkBill and BettyBoo.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp
    I didn't understand this . Because on my computer I'm still on Page 1 .
    Well, "Some men are longer than others"...That must be a fine long page you have there, lad...Butterfly will be interested...And he might be able to explain why your page count is fecked up, though harrycuda would explain the real reason...Heh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp
    And as for you BaitongBoy ........... you're going back in the BB box with BkkBill and BettyBoo.
    I am duly honoured, I think...

    And for those purists...Nobody said this was gonna be a house building thread...
    But ya never know...

    How about a turnip-shaped dome made out of Wasp-Paper?...That would be a fascinating challenge...And we could work in the "span problems," as well...

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    BETTYBOO : " Dream on, Waspy..."


    Nice use of colour Bettzz !

    Tedious isn't it ?



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    Necron99;... If you are going to sell the house at cost then what's the point of building something hoping that someone else want's it???
    It's not going to increase the price of the land one bit.





    If you want to make maybe 200 000 Baht it's easier to acquire that on an asset of 1.8 million baht than on a simple land sale of much less .

    Effectively it's spreading the same small profit over a bigger purchase so it's easier to obtain.

    You have a truck you want to make £500 on and you have no buyers . So you spend £200 on a paint job and £1000 on chrome wheels .
    It's now much easier to make £500 on the whole package . Your improvements are charged at cost .

    Besides .... there's considerable value in the fun of doing the build.


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    Hi Wasp,
    Its all good fun, doesn’t matter much what gets posted, sure beats reading about depressing news, around the world.
    What about an "A framed house" the roof are the walls.

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    Thank you biffee .

    I do try hard to write differently but I need a construction theme on which to hang it.
    Even a putative build .

    I think a nice A-frame might frighten all the locals .
    It could be a very cheap build of course but think how many damn monks I'd have to pay to satisfy all the deceased spirits that an A-frame might disturb !!!

    I'm having enough trouble with these plans now.
    Bettyboo had a look at my first layout which had taken me so long to do and he was very helpful really .......... only changing everything !

    More on that later .




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    Wasp me old' mucker, a moment of seriousness if I may.

    You say that the initial piece of land was 12 metres wide by 78 metres long, and that the lady who sold it to Missy sold the front half and retired to the back half. I'm assuming that this gives you a bit of land 12 metres wide by about 39 metres long, but with what I assume is a right of way over it for the lady living on the back bit.

    I seem to remember the discussion regarding rights of way on your 'Not a house building thread' whereby the collected wisdom of TD deemed that irrespective of the machinations of Lady Pig, she could not legally prevent Missy from having a right of way over Lady Pig's land. The only question I think was whether vehicular access would be considered to be an enhancement on what may have started as a footpath/motorcycle path.

    Does the back bit of the land border any public rights of way (roads/paths or the like) or does the old lady need to cross your land to get to her place?

    I only ask as it may have a bearing on what to build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp
    You're missing the point . If you want a serious , high-grade construction build you just read terp.
    Woah! Thanks for that very nice compliment Waspie. Now I'm feeling the pressure to live up to it. . . . and I trust your thread will NOT be too serious.

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    ^^Perhaps that's why it's "Maybe a House Building Thread"...

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    Roobarb; "Wasp........... I assume there is a right of way over it for the lady living on the back bit.
    Does the back bit of the land border any public rights of way (roads/paths or the like) or does the old lady need to cross your land to get to her place?
    I only ask as it may have a bearing on what to build."




    Hi RoobeeDoobee .

    That's a precise memory you've got going there Roob .

    Have a picture on me ..............






    The original plot was a long narrow stretch . But it's a sandwich with the bitumen road at the front and another earth road at the back .

    Missy now has the plot outlined in yellow but don't tell Neverna .
    The old house stood exactly in the centre so it's a case where moving house meant moving the house .
    The remaining land for the unfortunate old Mum is outlined in blue and you can see she has access on the road marked in red .
    But she has no car so she just wanders across Missy's plot and will do forever more I think .

    But " no " . There's not an access difficulty here .

    *** And on the picture you can see Missy's renovated 26 Column Roman/Greek Palazzo on the right there .
    Someone has painted a bloody big yellow star on the roof. Could be unfortunate that .




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    Thanks, Wasp. I'm on the same page now. Coffee and reading lamp are ready and I'm waiting for the 'plot to develop'.

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    I'm still traumatised by the cheesey muffin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp View Post
    I'm still traumatised by the cheesey muffin.
    Sow up the holes in your trouser pockets. Works for me.

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    Neverna : Sow up the holes in your trouser pockets. Works for me. I believe you.


    You do know that a Sow is a female pig don't you ?

    I don't see how a female pig in my trouser pockets is going to help .... although it does sound like fun .



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    Harr !! Harrr !!!!!!

    Watch out Bettyboo .

    I found out how to change my settings to 10 Posts per page and now I'm on Page 5 !!

    HA ! Catching up fast .



    Wasp


    Oh .

    I just looked at Betty's Thread and he's now on Page 127 .
    That triumphant moment didn't last long .


    *

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    Neverna; I'm waiting for the 'plot to develop'.

    Hmmmm A bit clever that one Nev. ' Waiting for the plot to develop '

    I missed it.

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    • I'm hoping...............



    ..........That the big orange star...............is there to make



    ........it easier


    For the FONT police........to

    ...............................................Send IN THE DRONES...........

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