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Construction in Thailand Is building in Thailand as bad as it seems? Can properties really be built and fitted out to European standards? Would you like to Build your own house in Phuket, or a swimming pool in Bangkok? Solar water heating in Pattaya? Or maybe you want to build a resort or guesthouse on Koh Samui? If you want to build a luxury house in Thailand then this is the forum for you.

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Old 29-08-2014, 08:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A swimming pool in Thailand so easy

I am reading here about concerns how to choose a special builder and what are the cost when deciding to build a swimming pool. That is really not necessary, it can be built by everybody with help of local village mason - chang pun. And for not so big money.

8 years ago when I had discovered that behind the ruined house (10 years abandoned) - we were lucky to find and acquired from a bank there is a space allowing quite a long pool, the realization had not been postponed for a long. To neatly dig out 12x3m, some 1.5m deep had taken half a day to a skilled backhoe. Next day a rebar mesh 1 hun (3mm) 20x20cm had been laid in the bottom, the sides 0.5m risen for future connection with walls. A smaller CPAC truck was invited with a foundation cement mixture (the lowest quality 1,400B/m3) and some 10cm layer had been poured on the bottom.






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Swimming pool walls

The extension where the backhoe had to climb out had been made use of for comfortable stairs, the space underneath for a overflow tank.
The village brick layer - chang pun - had been contracted for making the walls by cement blocks, not much different from what they usually do as a fence around a house. Just to lay the block doubled and to insert horizontal rebars 1 hun (dia. 3mm) under the block as a ring along the walls.
A normal cheap cement had been used with addition of nam yaa a liquid glass to become more water proof.
Normal tiles (a sale) have been used for walls and bottom, attached with the same cement mortar plus nam yaa.






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I like the thought of a pool but it's the maintainance I don't fancy.
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Brilliant Pool that.

No need to worry about the maintenance, that's what Som Chai is for .
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Got a pic of the container the naam yaa came in?
And what ratio to cement was used?
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Looks great!

Make you sure that you secure a plan for covering.

Pools are a bitch to maintain and keep clean in Thailand -
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No need to worry about the maintenance, that's what Som Chai is for
After reading many of your posts Terry I'd have thought you'd be wary of trusting a Thai to do jack shit for you?
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Looks great, nice one. No young kids I take it?
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No need to worry about the maintenance, that's what Som Chai is for
After reading many of your posts Terry I'd have thought you'd be wary of trusting a Thai to do jack shit for you?
...or having gained any such knowledge about Thais/Thai culture.
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Looks great, nice one. No young kids I take it?
Why not they can learn to swim at a very young age.

It is the maid you have to worry about which is why most Indonesian pools are only 1.5m deep!
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Looks great, nice one. No young kids I take it?
Easily resolved.
Teach the tots to swim and stay afloat.


It has been known to happen.
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You seem to be missing a lot of the plumbing we would normally expect, or is it all on the side we can't see?
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I don't see any skimmers or an overflow channel? And I see no drain points for pool emptying.
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After reading many of your posts Terry I'd have thought you'd be wary of trusting a Thai to do jack shit for you?

Firstly I 'd like to apologize that you have had to read many of my posts, most are shit EH.

Secondly, I'd have no problem employing A Thai, just make sure you supervise him until you can trust him to do his job properly.

That's the big one really.
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Under the acrylic cover all the HiTech machine equipment is located:



At the top the open channel brings the overflow water, dropping thru net into the overflow tank under the stairs. The filter with 6-way valve is from GH for 7,500Baht, the pump for 7,500 B, not from GH (from a pump shop in Ch.M) but they have got a similar one.
The red switch on the left is supervising a lowest level in the overflow tank against dry pump operation.
The pump intake sucks both from the overflow tank and also from the bottom of the pool (2 inlets), by the valves can be chosen how, I run ca. 50/50. If not enough level in the overflow tank, its sucking can be fully shut off (and the level switch overritten), then the pump runs only by recirculation with the pool bottom intakes - no overflow.

The pump pushes the sucked water thru the filter - filled in by 2 sizes (1 - 2 mm) of a washed sand - as available locally for village water filters. The inlets (2pcs) into the pool are ca. 1m under the water on the same side as the overflow channel (I have just one overflow along a longer side - it is enough for cleaning the surface and for smooth swimming - no waves, no water in the nose). After turning on the pump the surface water is shifting slowly towards the overflow channel, within 10 min. the surface is cleaned up.
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I don't see any skimmers or an overflow channel? And I see no drain points for pool emptying.
Cheap as chips - get an external 2000bt pump and a few hoses
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^^Or that

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Why not they can learn to swim at a very young age.
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Easily resolved. Teach the tots to swim and stay afloat. It has been known to happen.
Of course, but kids like to play, paddle and splash about in their depths. When was the last time you saw a four year old doing laps?
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Of course, but kids like to play, paddle and splash about in their depths. When was the last time you saw a four year old doing laps?
Drop a crocodile in there and they'd soon be up to Olympic standard
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Speaking about skimmer: a skimmer was invented by the modern pool builders who persuade you that the overflow system with the tank is overly expensive. In fact, they humbly just omit to mention that with their plastic foils (or any other ready to install shape) is quite difficult to finish the plastic on the edge of the pool.

Besides, they omit to mention that their skimmer pool has to be digged out some 20 - 30 cm more deep, then the walls are 20 - 30cm higher over the water level - for what?

Then imagine how powerfull the pump has to be to get all the dirt from the water surface sucked just in that one (or two) MickeyMouse skimmer. Then, the pool water has to be carefully leveled that the surface water gets into the skimmer, not higher and not lower.

Then, all the dirt sucked in the skimmer goes directly into the filter. Unlike at the overflow pool when the dirt flows into the channel and drops into the tank. In the tank it will slowly settle to the bottom, the pump sucks only a clean water. The settled dirt in the tank will be cleaned and pumped out once in 2 - 3 months by a submersible small pump (in Thai - Daewoo).

Then, they tell you that the overflow tank has to be very large, the volume depending on the surface of the pool. This is wrong, if 1 -2 people jump into the small or large pool, they push over the edge always the same volume of the water. In fact, the increase is not much remarkable and it is steadily pumped out again back into the pool.

And they tell you how expensive is a grid for covering the channel and how difficult it the cleaning of the channel. All is wrong, it does not need to be covered and it is always cleaned out by the overflow water.



Moreover, the open channel is very practical for keeping there the sucking hose for pool vacuum cleaning. With very simple move the hose goes over the edge and back again. This sucking hose is a 3rd inlet to the pump, shut by a valve (shown on the top on right at the previous picture. Therefore, when the valve is shut, the hose is always full of water, ready to suck when its valve is open, and the other inlets from pool bottom and overflow tank are shut. With the hose kept full of water the usual headache is avoided, when they are advised to connect empty hose to a skimmer (!!!) and they fight with the air in the hose that the pump does not like to suck at all.
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But the most important advantage of the overflow pools is a swimming without water in the nose. There are practically no waves (even with my only one overflow side). The waves are ironized by the slightly sloped edge tile (I have 40cm wide). The water either goes over the edge out into the channel or returned by the slope.




I am always saying, the skimmer pools, it is as if you bought an expensive Mercedes with full options, however, without spring suspension.
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OK, good job.
How much did you spend all up?
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