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    Anybody in Thailand using Revit?

    I wonder if anybody is using Revit here for Thai builds. I spend a lot of time past few months learning it and I want to use it for my own constructions, especially for material take of and cost scheduling. I need some good advice on usage and families of materials commonly used in Thailand.

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    Not many I would think. Most seem to be stuck on autocad.
    I would assume however that the big universities are teaching some BIM programs.
    I have seen a few being promoted at the architect expo in Bangkok.
    But never revit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splitlid View Post
    Not many I would think. Most seem to be stuck on autocad.
    I would assume however that the big universities are teaching some BIM programs.
    I have seen a few being promoted at the architect expo in Bangkok.
    But never revit.
    Actually there are revit courses available but its all in Thai. I was hoping to get in touch with farangs...

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    That's good to see that they are promoting revit here. I would try one of the revit forums. I have just googled revit forum and many came up.with regards to thai construction materials, making new materials (namely walls, I guess, as most other materials are pretty much standard)would be pretty easy. Costs of materials is something you will have to do homework on and go to some shops and find out and then add to the program.
    Best of luck.

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    With regard to quantities, etc. as this is a one off project. Then I would recommend doing them out of the program. As entering all the data would be time consuming and possible difficult to extract.

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    Well, I thought, having a solid library that contains all basic materials with their types and assigned cost would be perfect. Once you got that, revit will calculate the cost instantly as you model. I.e., what ever you put into your building will be grouped and summarized right away on material takeoff report. Whats more, you can then switch between material types and see the total difference in price.
    Setting up such library would be time consuming but certainly would pay off.

    Which forum did you search?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    I wonder if anybody is using Revit here for Thai builds. I spend a lot of time past few months learning it and I want to use it for my own constructions, especially for material take of and cost scheduling. I need some good advice on usage and families of materials commonly used in Thailand.
    I use Revit, what is your question specifically?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koetjeka
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    I wonder if anybody is using Revit here for Thai builds. I spend a lot of time past few months learning it and I want to use it for my own constructions, especially for material take of and cost scheduling. I need some good advice on usage and families of materials commonly used in Thailand.
    I use Revit, what is your question specifically?
    How you do material takeoffs with cost? Do you have some collection of materials or families with Thai prices assigned to it?

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    Also, are you an architect? Maybe you could be a help for my project?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Koetjeka
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    Originally Posted by Jacob
    I wonder if anybody is using Revit here for Thai builds. I spend a lot of time past few months learning it and I want to use it for my own constructions, especially for material take of and cost scheduling. I need some good advice on usage and families of materials commonly used in Thailand.
    I use Revit, what is your question specifically?
    How you do material takeoffs with cost? Do you have some collection of materials or families with Thai prices assigned to it?
    Hi Jacob, sorry for my late reply. I am kind of busy at the moment trying to find a job in my country, not easy with this financial crisis still going on...

    You can create a material takeoff by right clicking on Schedules/Quantities and selecting New material takeoff. Then select the category, doors for example, and select the fields you want to see on the takeoff.
    Keep in mind that in order to see the costs you will have to fill in the cost of the materials (select a door --> edit type --> identity data --> cost).
    I myself havent really used this function yet since I am still rather new to Revit and have done only a few projects with it, I in the proces of switching to Revit full-time instead of Autocad.
    My biggest problem is detailling in Revit, at the moment I have got all my details in Autocad and it takes a lot of time to recreate them in Revit.

    Also, are you an architect? Maybe you could be a help for my project?
    Unfortunatly I am no architect but I have got my degree in construction engineering (built environment) in which architecture and designing was very important. Just tell me what you would like to do and maybe I can be of any help.

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    Hej Jacob,

    I am an architect and I use Revit.
    It is a database, you work on templates.
    It is a far too complicated software to set up for just one project.
    I have been using it for around 4-5 years, and I am still learning new smart features.

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    Revitcity (com) is the place to start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by memo View Post
    Revitcity (com) is the place to start.
    Yes it is indeed a good website, if you are really interested in learning Revit you might want to try the Revit Architecture Essential Training, itīs quite interesting.


    It is a far too complicated software to set up for just one project.
    I have been using it for around 4-5 years, and I am still learning new smart features.
    Very true, I would not use it for just one project either. It takes a long time to get to know all features, even more so because you can do stuff with rebar and solar calculations and so forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koetjeka
    Hi Jacob, sorry for my late reply.
    I'm sorry for late reply too. I have seen that you are not responding, so I have not been looking into this thread for few days, anyways good luck while you are searching for a job!

    In regards to Revit yes, I found how hard it is after first week of training and I'm aware that it is not something fast but I have time and 5 plot of land to build, so its not just for 1 project.

    I have done over 700 hours of training in past 2-3 month. I don't work anywhere, so I'm 10-15 hours on it every day. I'm also database architect and .NET programmer (same platform which is used to code Revit), so I get it fast.


    Quote Originally Posted by Koetjeka
    if you are really interested in learning Revit you might want to try the Revit Architecture Essential Training, itīs quite interesting.
    I have done this one already. Its awesome. There is two more from the same author: "Advanced modeling in Revit architecture (this one is on massing) and "Component workshop".

    Basically, at this point I'm comfortable with the Revit UI and I'm able to express my ideas from architectural point of view. What I need is someone who not only understand Revit but also construction in Thailand. I would like you guys to look at my project, give some advice and input in the areas where I have no experience yet.This is the reason why I'm posting here not on general Revit forum.

    I use Revit Architecture 2014, how about you guys?

    -Koetjeka I assume you are in Holland now, how about you memo?, are you in Thailand now?

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    post a pic of what you have.

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    I have done this one already. Its awesome. There is two more from the same author: "Advanced modeling in Revit architecture (this one is on massing) and "Component workshop".
    Yes indeed, I believe Ive done those too, it really helped me in getting to know the new environment.


    Basically, at this point I'm comfortable with the Revit UI and I'm able to express my ideas from architectural point of view. What I need is someone who not only understand Revit but also construction in Thailand. I would like you guys to look at my project, give some advice and input in the areas where I have no experience yet.This is the reason why I'm posting here not on general Revit forum.
    I believe I know a fair bit about construction and construction in Thailand so feel free to show some drawings, schedules or ideas. I love to help people, in the past I had a topic on this forum where people could ask for help.


    I use Revit Architecture 2014, how about you guys?
    Me too, I also use Revit Structure sometimes.


    -Koetjeka I assume you are in Holland now, how about you memo?, are you in Thailand now?
    Woops, I forgot to change that. Im indeed in the Netherlands and I actually found a job yesterday at a contractor, not really what I wanted since I like to be a draftsman but Im happy to have a job in these difficult times.

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    I am in Thailand I live and work here full time.

    Revit is not really set up for calculating construction cost, but I read about two others softwares that can do the calculations through an ODBC database export option.

    I cant remember their names as they were targeted at high-rise and bridge building, not really what I needed.

    I did work together with a database programmer trying to set up an 2007 MS Access database. We actually made it work, but for 32 bit computers. I cannot make it work anymore.

    I with Splitlid, show us what you have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by memo View Post
    I am in Thailand I live and work here full time.

    Revit is not really set up for calculating construction cost, but I read about two others softwares that can do the calculations through an ODBC database export option.

    I cant remember their names as they were targeted at high-rise and bridge building, not really what I needed.

    I did work together with a database programmer trying to set up an 2007 MS Access database. We actually made it work, but for 32 bit computers. I cannot make it work anymore.

    I with Splitlid, show us what you have.
    That is nice, if you ever need a draftsman or construction engineer in your company I am available

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    Here is what I have so far


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Here is what I have so far

    I think you have to upload it to Picasa or Photobucket and then use the here. When I copy your URL I can see the picture though.

    I was wondering what the little squares next to the garage are and what the square on the right side of the front porch is.


    //edit: ohh I see, I was to quick replying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koetjeka
    Woops, I forgot to change that. Im indeed in the Netherlands and I actually found a job yesterday at a contractor, not really what I wanted since I like to be a draftsman but Im happy to have a job in these difficult times.
    Sounds like you moved out from Thailand but want to get back. Why have you moved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by memo
    Revit is not really set up for calculating construction cost,
    Why not? Material takeoffs can be created easy and precise.

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    Sounds like you moved out from Thailand but want to get back. Why have you moved?
    I will be back within 3 years! The reason I left is because the school I worked for didnt want to pay my wages in the holidays, so basically I would have been without money for 2-3 months. I applied for over 250 construction and architecture jobs but I dont have the required 10 years experience they ask



    Why not? Material takeoffs can be created easy and precise.
    One of the main reasons to switch to Revit is the whole BIM story, which includes easy price listings and material takeoffs.

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    The first thing I notice is that you want to use a flat roof. Why would you like to do it this way? Aesthetics? Cost?

    A few negative points about a flat roof:
    -Big chance it's going to leak, especially in Thailand where I have yet to see a leak free flat roof;
    -Little ways to ventilate the roof;
    -Flat roof requires more maintenance (bitumen lasts ~10 years or less);
    -Can be hazardous when the slope isn't enough or the drainage is full with leaves.

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