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    Ceiling Fans / Installation?

    I'm having those brass/wooden ceiling fans installed in most bedrooms. Rationale is that I hate those ubiquitous central fluorescent lights anyway, and I hope that getting some air movement will mean less need to run air conditioners. I know that wooden fans will not result in class 5 hurricane winds, but really that's not what I'm after, it's more like gentle air movement

    Question: Can the existing wiring for the central fluorescent light be used for the fan, or are typical ceiling fans (wood) such high wattage that I need to run separate cables?

    It's a fairly modern house in a compound.

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    Ceiling fans only draw an amp or two so they should be fine on a standard lighting circuit which probably uses 0.25 mm wire the ampacity of which is about 16 or 17 (the equivalent of AWG 13).

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    How very true, they use almost no current, and they will make some air movement.
    The thing tho about air cons is that they remove a lot of humidity while cooling, and thats the reason that we use ours most of the time, even tho they do not actually cool most of the time, but out house is tight and it doesn't take much to knock the humidity down, in a more open built Thai style the air flows thru so easy that even air con will not help with the humidity and will not stay cool for very long between runs.

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    the wiring for the lights is the same size as required by the fan

    you will have to install the control box, instead of the switch

    fans almost get rid of the need for aircon for much of the year, and are more comfortable and environmentally friendly

    aircon is a nice luxury on those stifling days though
    I have reported your post

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    > you will have to install the control box, instead of the switch

    Why's that? Fans come with an on/off cord that dangles down from the unit; one for the lights and one for the fan (3 speeds). I thought I'd just leave the fan turned on then I can turn it on/off with the light switch. (Well, ex-light switch, now fan switch)

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    You can buy remote control units for those fans now aswell, you just leave it all powered up and use the remote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    You can buy remote control units for those fans now aswell, you just leave it all powered up and use the remote.
    I searched high and low for a remote controlled fan and couldn't find a one here in Korat. Grrrr.....

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    When you can't find what you are really looking for, do you try to order things via the internet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Dude
    When you can't find what you are really looking for, do you try to order things via the internet?
    Other than books, I have not. When built my house on Saipan I did almost the whole house, including things like plumbing fixtures, via mail order. I haven't worked up the courage to try this in Thailand. Are there actually places that will sell things like ceiling fans over the Internet in Thailand?

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    I searched high and low for a remote controlled fan and couldn't find a one here in Korat. Grrrr.....
    Global House have them. (Globalhouse.co.th - ˹éÒËÅÑ&#161 ;) Closest one to you is in Khon Kaen though. Try other big home improvement stores as well. You have to really ask, it's not immediately obvious that they're remote controlled.
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    ^Where is it on the web site? I get to "faifa" and there's nothing about ceiling fans.

    (My Thai reading is still quite rudimentary, so I need some help....)

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    ^Well, we all know about these Thai websites, don't we

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    Central Ceiling Fan Remotes

    [quote I searched high and low for a remote controlled fan and couldn't find a one here in Korat. Grrrr.....[/quote]
    Try Globalhouse.co.th - ˹ѡ. I saw one just yesterday in their elec dept in CMai. Now trying to decide if a need another several remotes in addition to the many I have now for TVs etc. Ck their website for the nearest to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteLotusLane View Post
    I'm having those brass/wooden ceiling fans installed in most bedrooms. ...I know that wooden fans will not result in class 5 hurricane winds, but really that's not what I'm after, it's more like gentle air movement
    In my experience these brass-wood fans do not move the air substantially at all, not even 'gently' as is your want. Go to home pro or wherever, ask the sales folks to turn on the fan you are interested in, then stand beneath it. I go for the basic steel long blade fan which I spray paint to a matching interior color with auto enamel (this does not wear).

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteLotusLane View Post
    > you will have to install the control box, instead of the switch

    Why's that? Fans come with an on/off cord that dangles down from the unit; one for the lights and one for the fan (3 speeds). I thought I'd just leave the fan turned on then I can turn it on/off with the light switch. (Well, ex-light switch, now fan switch)

    oh sorry, I thought that the fans were supplied with control boxes, not a bit of string

    the ones I fitted all had a seperate box included, much better idea

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    No, most of them have a couple of strings hanging down,, one is to control the fan and the other [if the fan has lights] is to turn off and on the lights..
    They are mostly the kinds that are in the USA, and I have 2 that I bought here for 1600 baht each, very attractive and easy to put up, just need the electric line that used to run the light, now you have both.

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    If you have decent fans up, they won't have strings, but a separate controller on the wall somewhere (or better a remote).

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    ^^ why is that and what makes you think so??
    Would it make my fans more decent to put the phony Thai ones back up that ran from a wall controller??

    Please give me your much learned advise while I look around and find the cheap Thai fans that I threw out in the junk pile and my ladder.

    But still I can't see where a wall switch will make them better. seems like what it does with the electricity, not where it come from would be the thing.

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    Only on Teak Door could we have a heated argument about ceiling fans....

    Some of the fans that have a wall controller that handles both the fan motor and the light fixture need both a hot and neutral wire at the switch box. Many lighting circuits run only the hot wire to the switch box.

    I know this because I installed two very expensive (US$450) Hunter ceiling fans in my house on Saipan. Luckily I had both a hot and neutral in the box so the fancy wireless remote controls worked as advertised.

    The very old fashioned ceiling fans that have a heavy duty control box on the wall (which is a multi-tap transformer and switch to change fan speeds by selecting different taps) also need a hot and neutral.

    Most fans on the market today for consumer installation are made to replace an existing light fixture and are designed to work on circuits that have only a hot wire in the switch box.

    In all my searching for fans here in Korat I never saw a single one with a wall controller or remote....

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    Quote Originally Posted by buad hai
    In all my searching for fans here in Korat I never saw a single one with a wall controller or remote....
    I guess you never went to Lotus then.

    They usually have 2 areas for fans. The shitty ones with gaudy lights on (in the gaudy lights section) and more solid ones with separate controllers (with the AC units).

    That's where I got mine from.

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    ^^ why is that and what makes you think so??
    Jeez, you're so easy to wind up, it's not even fun anymore.

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    well I was just wondering where you come up with your ideas, I bought the fans that we use now at an Electrical shop where we bought all the components when we built the house, only shop in town that had all the 3 wire stuff for the grounded system and thats the kind of fans that they have there except for the Thai ones that come with a 3 position/speed wall mounted controller.

    But since no one else was talking bullshit, I thought that you might just by chance have something intelligent to say for a change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    I guess you never went to Lotus then.
    Lotus here in Korat has exactly zero ceiling fans. Not a one. I went to four different Home Max stores, Home Pro, the Mall and half a dozen big electrical supply houses in central Korat. The selection was dismal. The ones I got are OK, but I would have paid a lot more for ones with either a remote or decent control switch. I don't really like the strings, but they'll do....

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    I must admit that it can be hard to find stuff like this sometimes. You go to Cambodia, and every place has decent (if not too old) ceiling fans, but not so many places here do.

    And, BG. I just post my experiences. They're not the same as everyone else's but you don't seem to realise that we all have different experiences. You should open your mind a bit and stop being an ignorant old fuck all the time. Have a nice day.

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    Well Jomtien has remote controls for ceiling fans so I assume Bangkok must have, about 1,200baht per unit, the remote is a bit chunky but does the lights and the differant speeds for the fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Well Jomtien has remote controls for ceiling fans
    So can you retrofit a "pull string" fan with the remote control electronics?

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