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    Fence Costs

    Hi Guys,

    I am remiss in starting my house build, but am in need of advice. My builder is quoting a price of 180,000 baht for a concrete fence. The length is about 50 meters. I am following a design that I found on this site, but for the life of me I can't find the thread now. I "borrowed" a picture of it to show my builder, see below. I want to use the 'plastic" wood instead of 'real' wood. I know this is more expensive than real wood, but no termites.

    The house build is near Yasothon, any ideas on prices I should be paying?

    Thanks for your help.

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    I once asked a Thai contractor friend of mine how much for a concrete wall 1.8m high, he said about 3000 baht/m.

    I would also use conwood unless the "real" wood has been treated which I doubt it will be.

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    Koman's thread has a wall a bit like the one you might be after:



    http://teakdoor.com/construction-in-...thread-20.html (Land development with wall and house...photo thread..first effort.)

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    I'm not sure that he mentioned any costs for the wall or not, but there are several good pictures of it if you needed some to get more detailed quotes. If you drop him a PM he may be able to give you an indication of what it cost to build. I think he used Conwood/Shera or the like for the 'wooden' bits (the concrete wood lookalike stuff that leaves termites vexed, confused and just a little hungry).
    Last edited by Roobarb; 25-02-2014 at 09:59 AM.

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    Actually both of those pics are of my wall at different stages.

    It's not finished yet, but here's what it looks today.



    Costs are not all in yet but it looks like about 2600-2700 Thb per meter, which at the high end make your 180K quote pretty high. You can certainly get it done for less than that. Costs do vary a bit from place to place and depending on how much work is available for people who do this sort of thing well.

    If you are letting the builders buy the materials they will give themselves a healthy markup on the prices. I just had mine quote a price to build and supplied them with all the materials myself.

    It's usually the best way to go if you can manage it. It certainly helps to research the prices in advance and to have some idea of the quantities of things you will need. I had built over 300 meters of wall before even starting this one....and the regular perimeter walls of 2m height with good foundations cost 1150 per m2....but that's without any woody looking stuff or fake stonework facings etc.

    The "wood" is cement/fibre board. The newer stuff actually looks like real wood even close up....and it can be stained any colour you like. It's strong, light and more or less idiot proof.

    Good luck with your project. If you have any more wall/fence questions....I'm your man.....
    I blame the Americans......and Thaksin.

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    ^

    That's the one Roobarb.


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    ^ So it is. I must have been paying attention...

    Looking at the OP's initial photo I thought it was vaguely familiar, although it did look like it had been taken in the 1970s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roobarb View Post
    ^ So it is. I must have been paying attention...

    Looking at the OP's initial photo I thought it was vaguely familiar, although it did look like it had been taken in the 1970s?
    No Frankie that would always make a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoxman
    I am remiss in starting my house build, but am in need of advice.
    Hoxman - now you've figured out how to post pics and start a thread, any chance you might like to elaborate on what you are building up in Yasothon???

    Whilst I'm not convinced that the saying 'a problem shared is a problem halved' really applies to a typical TD housebuilding thread (more like a problem shared is a cause for much hilarity and irrelevant posts about mother-in-laws and the like), you will sometimes however elicit a gem of useful information, a bit like with Koman's post above.

    Good luck with your project...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKKBILL
    No Frankie that would always make a difference.
    That bloody kitchen has spread throughout this forum like some form of aesthetic smallpox...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roobarb View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BKKBILL
    No Frankie that would always make a difference.
    That bloody kitchen has spread throughout this forum like some form of aesthetic smallpox...
    I was tempted to post a Frankie pic along with the wall, but his fame is spreading far and wide (blame Bettyboo) without any further promotion .....and anyway, I did not want the poor OP to feel overwhelmed by such magnificence when he's just contemplating a simple wall....

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    Indeed koman you were wise to withhold Frankie. I think the OP has already been swamped with non-information so showing her in all her glory could be to much, at least some per meter fence prices turned up.

    Oh wait a minute we have yet to see Frankie full frontal in all her magnificence.

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    I build my 2m high 114 LF fence in Khon Kaen spring 2012. hired a local builder, it was him his two sons, wife and an other guy, paid 500 bht per LF Labor, and I bought all the material, and wood for forms, when it was all said and done It cost me about 1500 bht per LF the Roling gare was an extra 10,000 bht.


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    Why not only concrete to really hide the garden and protect you ? Is it so important that you think it looks better with wood ?

    With the monkeys drug addicts in this country I would protect myself as an embassy if I was living in a house...

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    ^ why live there if you need to protect yourself by living in a fortress?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnwadrick View Post
    ^ why live there if you need to protect yourself by living in a fortress?
    Not only that, but does anyone think a 2m high wall (or even 3m) is going to stop a couple of Thai's burglars regardless of what you build it with? These guys can climb like monkeys and they are barely inconvenienced by walls, fences or anything else if they have popped a pill or swilled a drop of Hong Thong...and decide to break in to your place.

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    Thanks Koman, Roobarb and the rest of the TG gang for the advice. I was able to negotiate the price to 1500 baht per meter. I purchase the cement/fibre wood look-alike materials and they will install, includes electric for lighting on gate. The fence footings will be 0.6 meters deep, on original soil.

    And BTW, I have been following the Frankie comments and have been biting my tongue by not adding to it by mentioning my Frankie kitchen exhaust fan. Doing a kitchen remodel in Koh Samui home now. So with work on Samui home and the start of build here in Yasothon area it is keeping us busy.

    I promise to start by house build thread this weekend to gain further insight and advice from this helpful crew.

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    Not only that, but does anyone think a 2m high wall (or even 3m) is going to stop a couple of Thai's burglars regardless of what you build it with? These guys can climb like monkeys and they are barely inconvenienced by walls, fences or anything else if they have popped a pill or swilled a drop of Hong Thong...and decide to break in to your place.
    My thoughts exactly, I can see those little monkeys climb over a 3m wall to get out of class so a little fence won't be any obstacle for them, even with a TV in their arms.

    An electric fence might work, the one that electrocutes you when you touch it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnwadrick View Post
    ^ why live there if you need to protect yourself by living in a fortress?
    Not to protect yourself so much but to lend a message to the casual scum that wish to "drop by" in their convenience [not yours] - neighbors, extended family, the odd freeloader, etc. Be sure to secure the gates with locks.....

    I've done these a few times as well.....building quality/secure perimeter property walls/fences needn't be expensive.

    If you are paying in the neighborhood of B180,000 per 50 meters, you need to shop around. They see you coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai
    paid 500 bht per LF Labor, and I bought all the material, and wood for forms, when it was all said and done It cost me about 1500 bht per LF the Roling gare was an extra 10,000 bht.
    This is a reasonable price. Good benchmark.

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    Mines a simple wall more decorative than anything I bought the materials, can't remember how much I lost the receipt ( useful I know ). But labour charge was B1500 per 2.5m section



    In this pic it still needed another coat of paint
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai
    paid 500 bht per LF Labor, and I bought all the material, and wood for forms, when it was all said and done It cost me about 1500 bht per LF the Roling gare was an extra 10,000 bht.
    This is a reasonable price. Good benchmark.
    In my area this seemed to be the average at the time,
    In looking at my post I see that I have a typo,
    It should read LM (linear meter) rather than LF (linear foot). Force of habit I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    Originally Posted by Carnwadrick
    ^ why live there if you need to protect yourself by living in a fortress?
    Not to protect yourself so much but to lend a message to the casual scum that wish to "drop by" in their convenience [not yours] - neighbors, extended family, the odd freeloader, etc. Be sure to secure the gates with locks.....
    well then the neighbors, inlaws and extended family would be discouraged from visiting and that would be setback to your social life and even brand you as a antisocial farange

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai
    It should read LM (linear meter) rather than LF (linear foot). Force of habit I guess.
    I read LM. Force of habit.

    I just finished a 1.2M high all concrete wall. Rendered on both sides. Just to confuse, labor was 1000 baht per 2 meters. Approx 80 LM. 75k baht for labor and materials. I must say a good job done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnwadrick
    why live there if you need to protect yourself by living in a fortress?
    Missus is an avid gardener. Wall has nothing to do with security to keep out humans. Only there to keep out free range chickens, buffalo and cattle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post

    Missus is an avid gardener. Wall has nothing to do with security to keep out humans. Only there to keep out free range chickens, buffalo and cattle.

    Exactly so !!

    Missy put up a wall solely to stop the various chickens , ducks and dogs from wandering back and forth and squabbling .





    And she kept it low enough to be able to call and smile and wave to the neighbours .


    See - I'm reading hoxxy !


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