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    Newbie new build

    I read with interest the building threads on TD...If I get enough response.I will add my forthcoming ( no doubt nightmare ) experience with you all...

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    Bit chicken or the egg.
    Won't get responses until you start posting..

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoSTiT View Post
    I read with interest the building threads on TD...If I get enough response.I will add my forthcoming ( no doubt nightmare ) experience with you all...

    So you want to read ours, but you won't share yours ? That seems a little one-sided.

    You do need to get a few more posts under your belt before you can link pictures.

    Looking forward to following your "adventure".

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    OK then, lets get some posts on the board.....

    Hmmm, where to start...Been in Thailand since 2005 and as you can imagine my Thai language skills are after 8 years NON EXISTANT...
    Having to rely on Mrs. LoSTiT for all communication is hard as she knows sweet FA about building..

    Moving on, last August we bought 8 rai in Kabinburi , approx 3 rai is best described as a small lake...and 10Km from MIL.

    Will post the google map after I reach required amount of posts...

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    8 Rai is a bit?
    Farming or market garden?

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    Buying the land was quite stress free, Mrs. L used a Thai website and searched around near her home town...

    Me, I always had my heart set on sea view land , but after a 4 million baht investment in Samui went TU, well the pockets where empty as you might imagine....

    Anyway, we got the number of a Thai guy who is a sort of unofficial agent and on a visit to Kabin we met him..

    He showed us a 5 rai plot which had about 150 Meters of road frontage and the 8 rai plot, which is accessed via a 4 m wide government road.

    How much did we pay? you might be asking.........1,3 mil

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    Dunno what to do Necron, thats one of those TBC ....
    Definitely need some income somehow but I believe it's not going to be easy

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    A three rai pond will give you all the fish you need.
    4 rai small for a farm, but if you look to niche high yield plants you might get beer money. Chillies, pepper etc.

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    A bit off topic Necron but if you have any info or experience about whats best to grow etc etc . I'm all ears

    Mrs is talking about ' Don Mai Manao ' as our land is ex farm land ( probably rice ) and is quite low which brings me onto a HELP subject....LANDFILL

    Do I landfill now or later?

    Land is approx 80cm lower than the road which we are told does not flood, so I am thinking a floor level of some 1.20M above existing or in other words about 40cm above the road level...Rainy season there now so we have MIL keeping watch...

    200 m2 plus of fill under the house seems a waste to me...comments please..

    Plans show 74 x 'friction piles' length to be determined somehow sized at 0.22 x 0.22...

    Do I bang these in through landfill or as is before casting the grade beam...

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    Your piles should go in and be stable before,the fill, or you will be waiting a long time.
    Rice land....uggggg.

    If you want to fill 5 rai you are looking at serious $
    1500 truckloads at least, and you will need good fill if you want to farm.
    Is your 3 rai lake just flooded paddy?
    If so you could deepen it to 3 meters and use the dirt to fill....

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    A bit off topic Necron but if you have any info or experience about whats best to grow etc etc . I'm all ears

    Mrs is talking about ' Don Mai Manao ' as our land is ex farm land ( probably rice ) and is quite low which brings me onto a HELP subject....LANDFILL

    Do I landfill now or later?

    Land is approx 80cm lower than the road which we are told does not flood, so I am thinking a floor level of some 1.20M above existing or in other words about 40cm above the road level...Rainy season there now so we have MIL keeping watch...

    200 m2 plus of fill under the house seems a waste to me...comments please..

    Plans show 74 x 'friction piles' length to be determined somehow sized at 0.22 x 0.22...

    Do I bang these in through landfill or as is before casting the grade beam...

    Manao means lemon so I guess your wife wants to grow some lemon!

    I would suggest to fill up your land until it's HIGHER than the road for obvious reasons. You will probably have to wait until later this year or mayhaps even next year, in this season it's extremely difficult to find soil as 99% is used to grow rice now.

    You should fill up the land under your house because you don't want to have a pool under it, do you?

    74 piles???? How big is your house going to be? I expect it to be super huge with 74, for a standard project you need a pile every 3m or so (very standard). There are multiple kinds of piles, friction piles deliver the forces to the earth through friction. These piles are usually used when the sand layer is pretty deep or when you need the piles to be able to absorb both push and pull forces. They are not very common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoSTiT View Post

    Me, I always had my heart set on sea view land , but after a 4 million baht investment in Samui went TU, well the pockets where empty as you might imagine....

    Tell us more about that as we all learn from other members experience good or bad.

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    For what it's worth, our 3 plots of land are all rice paddy. Lot 1 has been filled in (~1 m) and is where we have the house. The area with the house has another ~1 m of fill, plus all the pilings to support the house. No flood issues.
    I want to raise lot 2 about 1 m, so I can put my man-cave there, plus give the ducks and chickens a drier home.
    Lostit, with all your posts now, you should be able to post pics now. Just remember, they need to be somewhere on the internet (such as photobucket). You cannot post directly from your pc.
    Looking forward to reading about your adventures.
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    Thank you all so far for your comments...

    No intention to fill all 5 rai..Just 1 rai for the house / garden to stay dry to start with...the remainder I am keeping an eye on via MIL during rainy season.
    Was quoted 700B per truck load ( 10 wheeler ) last year by the guy who acted as the agent, at Songkran 2013 the price was 800B or he would arrange the fill complete with levelling off with a tractor for 115K baht.

    Structural design is by Samui civil engineer, I explained to him about the land as best I could so maybe he went overboard on the piles...Friction piles against end bearing?

    Previous owner sold the spoil from the lake for fill. I am told it is about 3M deep or as deep as the digger could reach..

    Apparently lime trees like wetter ground ...I have had our land described as ' din neow ' which I am told is sticky dirt or clay in my lingo...it doesnt seem drain well but it has not been touched for 5 yrs.

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    Terry, I am still recovering from the loss, another time I will share the miserable details with those that are interested..

    BTW , the main culprit is still in Thailand....

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    Terry, I think I cannot name names etc on a public forum...No more money to lose in legal actions I'm afraid

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    We have spent ages sourcing piling companies, the most local one will make the piles to order ( our spec re. size and length ) They do not however have a piling rig...

    I emailed 2 companies in BKK without any reply...

    Most helpful guy was from just outside BKK, Nakhon something or other,he told Mrs our area needs 8M long piles @ 260 Baht per / M and a whopping 85K to bang them in..
    Panthip had 80 piles banged in for his Korat house in 1.5 days....OK, they have travelling costs and wear and tear on the rig , but 85,000 ?

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    Koet.......she don't want to grow lemons....she married one

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    Hi lostit and welcome

    just to make sure i'm on the same page, you bought 8 rai for 1.3mil.

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    Yes Dead M......we paid 170K per rai....

    Chanote land paper

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    Dead M....sorry, forgot to add we are set back about 30M from the road which has power and water passing by our land....

    Seemed a good buy to me....just the build issues to contend with now...

    Next plan is to dig a test hole and get it inspected ....trouble is , in that area I have only seen ' village builders ' and if the work on MIL house is anything to go by, I might as well get the nearest buffalo to take a look...

    A couple of decent builds going on , but contractors from out of the area...one Isaan guy had 4 other new builds in a queue on his books.

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    Still cannot post attachments....maybe try tomorrow

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    ^ you can't post attachments, you need to host the photos and post links.
    Read the guide Mid posted.

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    Just for the record, there is land for sale on this site that is cheaper then a soi 13 brass.

    : : : Krungsri Property : : :

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