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    Infill and permission.

    I'm posting first and probably not last time here, so let me first say hi to everyone.

    I have 2 Rai of land to be raised some 30 cm in Muang Kaew - 15 km out of Chiang Mai.
    The land is located at the very end of the village, we will have to pass long, tiny village road quite much.

    I have been told that I need a permission from a village leader, so my Thai partner went to see him today and we are quite shocked. It turns up that beside the permission he even needs to call a meeting of all village members to discuss how much that permission would cost. LOL

    Is this legal? How to react?

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    where did the land come from?

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    we have purchased it from another farang-thai couple few months ago.

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    and they didn't mention the problem you may be facing?

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    This is something new.
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    No, they did not, and how would that help you to answer my question?

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    you do not provide much information, is the road to your land public or private? i can see no issues in filling your land (its YOUR land after all) but do the trucks will damage the access road?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aircut View Post
    you do not provide much information, is the road to your land public or private? i can see no issues in filling your land (its YOUR land after all) but do the trucks will damage the access road?
    Well. What else to say? Perhaps I chose misleading thread Title - sorry about that... Thais called it Land fill permission, so did I In fact it turns to be more of the permission to pass the road.

    The road is public of course, the thread wouldn't stand here otherwise.
    Its a paved road but tinny and certainly will not be damaged - it is a track with 5 cubic meters max load, so its not that huge.

    There maybe a problem for other cars to pass, but after all, whole job will take just 2-3 days.

    It sounds natural to notify the people living near by but needing a permission to pass public road? They obviously want us to support village budged. If this is not legal then it sounds like blackmail to me.

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    The amount proposed so far was some 10-20k and that would be supporting the village.

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    Good luck with it Jake after you have raised it do you propose to build on it ? If so I can imagine your gonna want a lot more bigger lorries up there

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    I do not know if this is of any help at all, however last week I had 22 truck loads of infill delivered to my place. No permission required and all the neighbours came round for a good old look-see.

    The house and land are at the end of a tinny one track road just wide enough for a ten wheel truck to get down.

    This operation started at 9 in the morning and was completed at 2 in the afternoon - no complaints and certainly no permission money requested.

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    That is the first that I have heard of..........
    If you pay, it will be a never ending thing.
    After all, you falang and you have big money.
    And if your GF goes along with it your in for a very expensive ride.

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    It seems to be extortion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damman View Post
    I do not know if this is of any help at all, however last week I had 22 truck loads of infill delivered to my place. No permission required and all the neighbours came round for a good old look-see.

    The house and land are at the end of a tinny one track road just wide enough for a ten wheel truck to get down.

    This operation started at 9 in the morning and was completed at 2 in the afternoon - no complaints and certainly no permission money requested.
    I had the same about a week ago; small track off a small road, etc. But my FIL sorted out the 20 truck loads and he has lived there for 60 years (his parents before that...). I have not been seen around the area in a year or so, and I've only been there about 4 times in 10 years...

    It sounds like 'extort the foreigner time'. If your wife is not from that area and her family is not living around then you will get these types of issues because she is a 'foreigner' too.
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    Thanks for all replays. They all confirm what I needed to be confirmed - it's nothing common here. It's a hoax (which IS actually common here)

    We didn't take a decision yet which way to go, but I let you know how all went through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan View Post
    Good luck with it Jake after you have raised it do you propose to build on it ? If so I can imagine your gonna want a lot more bigger lorries up there
    Not so much fixed plans so far, the idea for now was just to make the plot ready for construction.

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    How much are you paying for the infill? I was told the cost was between 850 and 950 per truckload. (The 850 baht truckloads are only filled to 80%...)

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    Not that much. We ask 3 guys so far. They offered 700, 750 and 800. This is for a second grade. First grade would be something over 1000.

    The 700 one seemed also most reasonable - was the only one willing to write the contract and accept the payment after the job is done. He also offered to propose fixed price per whole infill but I don't know the amount yet as he would have to take some measures in order to shot accurate estimate.

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    move . your in a bad location. !!

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    I am always surprised some people have to ask these trivial questions at a farang forum. Is this not obvious for your Thai partner?

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    We leveled our property. Took three days from 8 to 5 every day. Back hoe, dump truck and tractor to push the dirt. About 300 total truck loads moved. Paid 55,000 baht for the entire operation.

    All the neighbors came by and observed the work. Some stayed all day. Made friends or renewed friendships with my wife and me. Very nice days surrounded by nice people who really were just curious or bored with the daily to and fro.

    Its a way of folks getting to know you as well take measure of you. If they don't approve you'll soon find out.

    According to the rules of the moo ban we need to always do the right thing. My wife asks her family before we commence any work. Its not just about us, its the entire family at risk of negative feed back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Thanks for all replays. They all confirm what I needed to be confirmed - it's nothing common here. It's a hoax (which IS actually common here)

    We didn't take a decision yet which way to go, but I let you know how all went through.

    Maybe the guy who is going to deliver the infill is local

    if he is, ask him what he thinks

    anyway, just get it delivered and await results

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prem View Post
    I am always surprised some people have to ask these trivial questions at a farang forum. Is this not obvious for your Thai partner?

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    Well, if asking questions on a expat forum surprises you, the perhaps you are on a wrong website.

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