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    Internal staircases

    Hi all, new here.

    I've been living and working in Thailand now for 8 years. New to this forum, but have a fair bit of all round Thai experiance that perhaps i can help others with.

    I'm actually after a bit of help myself to start with, basically my bungalow in Pattaya is 80% completed. What i'm after is either a spiral, open stepped staircase or one of those that has a drawer within every tread for discrete storage, from the utility room to the loft where i shall be laying down boards as it is just for storing all the accumulated items we hardly use anymore (suitcases etc )

    My joiner hummed and haa'd when i mentioned a wooden staircase and that sent up the danger flags straight away. Does anyone here do staircases or know of others than do? (not concrete stair cases)

    I'm Central Pattaya based and would like quotes and perhaps some pics of previous work?

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    stairs are nothing short of a Pandora's box to the uninitiated ...............

    have a look here for starter and welcome to TD

    http://teakdoor.com/construction-in-...se-advise.html (Timber stairs for new house - Please advise)

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    Thanks Mid, much appreciated.

    I'd managed to find those posts earlier, however, one dealt with concrete steps overlaid with wood and the other thread ended without anything really being put forward.

    My joiner (he actually works for a guy that organised all the labour for me and just charges a small % on top), is very good at the more basic stuff and is somewhat of a perfectionist believe it or not, however the look on his face when i mentioned wooden stairs without concrete supports told me it was beyond him.

    I've never came across a staircase shop or factory here like we get in the UK. I may have to contact a specialist store in UK and see if i can buy plans if i gave them dimesions and hope they could be followed here.

    I'll keep trying though as so far i have had very little complaints about my builders, chippies and tilers. They have done me proud so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovingdave
    I may have to contact a specialist store in UK and see if i can buy plans if i gave them dimesions and hope they could be followed here.
    that would be where i would go and be prepared to supervise 24/7 and perhaps even go as far as having them knock out a practice set from scrap first .

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    Hi Dave,

    A British mate of mine who lives and works in Pattaya has designed most of the major staircase projects in Pattaya. A brilliant engineer and not expensive.

    I am sure he would be happy to give you some advice and a quotation.

    If you want his number send me a PM.

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    You can build a wooden staircase very easily and quite simply

    You can use new or secondhand wood, the latter being better wood and cheaper

    you may even be able to pick up an old stair set to use

    anyway, the two side risers for the stairs are fixed in place, then the steps are attached

    depending on what wood you have will determine the price

    i.e. redwood will be about one third of the cost of Teak




    the side rails can be added later

    find a carpenter not a general builder to make it
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    Many thanks Loy Toy,

    I tried sending you a pm but it states that i need to have posted more than 20 (or was it 30) times to be able to activate that function.

    Perhaps you could pm me with the number? I'm working at sea in the Gulf of Thailand at the minute but get home to Pattaya on the 29th May so will call him then if i get the number.

    Many thanks

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    Thanks DrAndy,

    I'm thinking more along the lines of a supported staircase from above, a floating staircase that might need outside steel supports or maybe a staircase with set in drawers in each tread.

    All this needs someone with a great deal more experiance than a general carpenter and is usually the domain of a specialist. I really appreciate you taking the time to help though, but i think things might get a little more complicated than a straight forward stairway.

    Many thanks

    Dave

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    I will send you his number and e-mail address and he will send you some pictures of his work.

    Some of the staircases he has done with glass is absolutely fantastic and he is a hell of a nice chap. All design work completed first on solid works and after he, not Thais has measured up. Fits then like a glove.

    I am now sorry I built my own staircase but I didn't know him at the time.

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    Put up for sale yesterday;

    STAIRCASE-Hardwood-Steel - THB20000 (Pattaya)









    A custom made staircase in red/brown hardwood and steel and chrome ...cost new 42.000 Baht, with some re work it will fit most stairways in the same style ... asking 20.000 Baht ..You will have to pick it up...

    STAIRCASE-Hardwood-Steel


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    Holy smoke Mr. English Noodles,

    That's EXACTLY what i had in mind, or something very similar. A floating spiral staircase! I don't have a huge amount of room to work with in the utility room so it would be ideal.

    My only downside is that i'm at sea at the minute and won't get back to Pattaya until the 29th. I can't use the pm fuction yet as newbie but perhaps drop me an e-mail addy?

    If it does get sold before i return, then perhaps Mr Loy Toy's mate can do me something the same. May i ask where you initially bought it?

    This is turning out to be a very productive day. Very glad i joined.

    Thank you all

    Dave

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    Hello, Dave. It's not my staircase. It is advertised on Criags list Thailand. I just noticed it earlier today whilst looking for a teak desk. The link to the ad is included in the post, but here it is again under this.

    STAIRCASE-Hardwood-Steel

    Maybe drop the guy a line and speak to him if you can. Hope it helps.

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    Hi Mr. Noodles,

    That's an e-mail sent off, so i'll see what happens.

    Thanks chaps.

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovingdave
    discrete storage
    Hope you will be able to purchase the one advertised.

    You could have a cabinet maker integrate a couple discrete storage cabinets into the staircase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rovingdave
    discrete storage
    Hope you will be able to purchase the one advertised.

    You could have a cabinet maker integrate a couple discrete storage cabinets into the staircase.
    Well, you see, i actually prefer the 'floating' look and think it gives the area a less cluttered look. It was my wife that really wanted the extra drawers (which i wasn't against per se), but looking at the open, floating staircase, it just looks terrific without boxing it up with anything else really. Fingers crossed.

    Thanks

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    Agree. Looks great as is. Messing with it not a great idea but a minor compromise is often in order to assure domestic tranquility.

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    Well, I am sure the person selling those stairs would be happy to have a buyer, those wouldn't be easy to sell normally. Good luck, hope you get them!

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    Sounds like a great price too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovingdave
    If it does get sold before i return, then perhaps Mr Loy Toy's mate can do me something the same.
    Looks like my mate actually designed that one if it is available in Pattaya.

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    excellent price. I couldn't do it for that price..
    Last time i built a spiral staircase i was a young man. The house looked out to sea in Broadstairs.

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    Hi everyone,

    I got a postive reply from the sellers. The advertisment wasn't actually what the sellers anticipated. They are selling only the chrome/wood balustrade not the stairs or support themselves hence the low cost. The stairs were already there when they rented the house and they put in the balustrade for safety.

    I shall go out to look on the 29th when i get back to Pattaya, so maybe still need your man Loy Toy to measure up my house and sort out supports and stairs?

    I'll get there in the end.

    Cheers

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