Thread: Finally starting the build.

^ don't know...

More pics at the weekend, so I'm thinking the floor may be poured and the roof close to up?

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

A 650,000 baht 100ish square metres

No bloody way is that 100sqm - 85sq, tops.

7650 B/sqm.

Nevermind.

Betty, sorry to barge in on your beautifully crafted thread but...

Marmite - a question for you:

When calculating the build costs per sqm, are things like covered balconies, car ports, open ground floor areas, um, roof overhangs??? and the like included or excluded - or is there a formula for the sort of non built-up built-up bits as it were, i.e. 50% of area or whatever.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

What could possibly go wrong

Originally Posted by Roobarb

Betty, sorry to barge in on your beautifully crafted thread but...

Marmite - a question for you:

When calculating the build costs per sqm, are things like covered balconies, car ports, open ground floor areas, um, roof overhangs??? and the like included or excluded - or is there a formula for the sort of non built-up built-up bits as it were, i.e. 50% of area or whatever.

I do the area inside the exterior walls. Anything else is what's called 'outside' in my book.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I reckon that me, Nige and Marmite have done things right down near the cheap end; folks would be doing well to undercut us...

As much I as I love Nige (in a manly, not Socal way) I don't think his falls into the cheap category as ours do. Off the top of my head it's 64 Sqm and about 650k so comes in somewhere between the budget builds and what you perceive the posh pads to be.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

As much I as I love Nige (in a manly, not Socal way) I don't think his falls into the cheap category as ours do. Off the top of my head it's 64 Sqm and about 650k so comes in somewhere between the budget builds and what you perceive the posh pads to be.

Maybe. In his defense, he plans to live there whereas I suspect that neither of us will...

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Maybe. In his defense, he plans to live there

No he doesn't. He plans to live in Cha Am or Lanzarote.

I'm sure I'm the only one on TD who reads the text.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

I'm sure I'm the only one on TD who reads the text.

I have an awful memory...

Funnily enough, was chatting to me parents yesterday, and they're planning to sell the place in Spain and move back to London. They're gonna put the place on the market for 1 million euro; how the other half live...

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I'm guessing that Roobarb's would be well over that (15,000 per sqM?) because he is using better materials, better workmanship, plus the higher you go the more expensive per sqM.

God, I hope not. The place is about 200 sq.m not including the galleried top floor or the balcony, or the ground floor open bit. I can't afford that at 15,000/sq.m. You'll have to give me a better price than that Betty otherwise I'll be forced to take my business elsewhere.

Actually the reason for asking is that some point I need to tot up what mine has cost. I've been rather avoiding it in the sort of 'don't want to know what it could have bought in real money' sort of way.

I think I'll continue to avoid the question until I've either finished the thread or run out of cash. Actually if it is the latter then the former will also apply anyway.

Originally Posted by Roobarb

God, I hope not. The place is about 200 sq.m not including the galleried top floor or the balcony, or the ground floor open bit. I can't afford that at 15,000/sq.m. You'll have to give me a better price than that Betty otherwise I'll be forced to take my business elsewhere.

Well, all that wood is adding up, how much now? About 250k? Plus you've done a lot of land fill around the house (you may choose to exclude that...), you have solid post sizes and foundations for your 2 story place. You have bought nice windows, frames and the such from a not so cheap outlet. That massive roof of yours ain't cheap! Your costs must be adding up, Roobarb! There's no way on Earth that it's under 11,000 baht per sqM... Go on, be brave, add it up.

It does look like a 3 million baht house...

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by Roobarb

God, I hope not. The place is about 200 sq.m not including the galleried top floor or the balcony, or the ground floor open bit. I can't afford that at 15,000/sq.m. You'll have to give me a better price than that Betty otherwise I'll be forced to take my business elsewhere.

Well, all that wood is adding up, how much now? About 250k? Plus you've done a lot of land fill around the house (you may choose to exclude that...), you have solid post sizes and foundations for your 2 story place. You have bought nice windows, frames and the such from a not so cheap outlet. That massive roof of yours ain't cheap! Your costs must be adding up, Roobarb! There's no way on Earth that it's under 11,000 baht per sqM... Go on, be brave, add it up.

It does look like a 3 million baht house...

Oi, you said 2 million a week or so ago on my thread, and I balked at that...

OK, these are real ballpark type numbers:

Money sent to the wife to pay the builder and buy the materials - 1.3M
Four wooden houses @ 100K, 60K, 60K and 25K = 245K

Land and filling - bit under a mill.

The place is not finished yet. Stuff still to do is a bit of gypsum for the ceilings, lights, fans, AC or two if we decide we want them. Prolly another 500K tops.

So all in it's...



Fuk.



Why did I just do that?

^there we go... 3 million, 200 sqM @ 15,000 per sq metre...

It's a lovely place. Well worth what you've spent.

It's a 3 million baht pad. Think of it in pounds; 60 thousand squids for a really nice place for you, your family, extended family, and some random villagers...

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^there we go... 3 million, 200 sqM @ 15,000 per sq metre...

It's a lovely place. Well worth what you've spent.

It's a 3 million baht pad. Think of it in pounds; 60 thousand squids for a really nice place for you, your family, extended family, and some random villagers...

Don't forget the occasional drunkards lurking about.

Also don't forget to imagine, what can you build in Europe for 3million Baht? Exactly, a 10m2 hut. All who build their houses here can consider themselves really lucky in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Koetjeka

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^there we go... 3 million, 200 sqM @ 15,000 per sq metre...

It's a lovely place. Well worth what you've spent.

It's a 3 million baht pad. Think of it in pounds; 60 thousand squids for a really nice place for you, your family, extended family, and some random villagers...

Don't forget the occasional drunkards lurking about.

Also don't forget to imagine, what can you build in Europe for 3million Baht? Exactly, a 10m2 hut. All who build their houses here can consider themselves really lucky in my opinion.

Oh bollox, now I'll have to build a wall too.

More expense...

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

there we go... 3 million, 200 sqM @ 15,000 per sq metre...

Faaaarrrrkkk!

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^there we go... 3 million, 200 sqM @ 15,000 per sq metre...

It's a lovely place. Well worth what you've spent.

It's a 3 million baht pad. Think of it in pounds; 60 thousand squids for a really nice place for you, your family, extended family, and some random villagers...

Yep...
That's how it works.

3 mil is about right.
Good luck, mate!

I'd agree with RS; 3 million is about right, and it's good value.

Consider a horrible home in a horrible part of England that's half the size and just a horrible place to live; would cost 3 or 4 times that price... Or, a shitty 45sqM condo in an average to poor part of Bkk, that'd be 3 million baht too; no comparison - nice houses don't come for free...

I'm going to pretend its 1.5 million.

The 1 million for the 5 rai of land and the subsequent fill was spent some time back so that's long forgotten.

The last 500k will be spent in the coming years in dribs and drabs so the actual house itself, to a (very) basic finish, is 1.5 million, or 7,500/sqm.

Including the top floor space, another 75 sqm, and we're looking at about 5,500/sqm, I'm feeling a bit better already.

Seriously, 3 million, it's not far off the price of a decent house somewhere a lot more convenient than where my place is.

I knew I shouldn't have attempted to add it up...

^it's not expensive, Roobarb. For what you have, it's good value. A lovely place. What can you get for 3 million??? My parents have a great property in a perfect location in one of the nicest areas of Spain - 45+ million, ffs...

My place is really quite basic, small, low quality everything, just functional, only 75sqM, and it is not far off 800k; factor through the size of your build, and yours is great value compared to mine. If I had the money, then spending 3 million in Thailand is about right for a nice house. Maybe even 4 or 5 million...

^^ Feel free to knock the price of the land off the build. I still think 5,500/sqm is an outright lie!

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

and it is not far off 800k

That's gone up. Is it 650k, 750k or 800k?