Build Order Help Needed

**missinglink** · 06-02-2013, 08:09 PM

Hi,

I would be grateful for any help from members.

I have a couple of questions as I am trying to help one of my friends with a house who is having a few issues with their builder.

1: At what point should the windows be attached? Before or after the walls are fully painted? or after the undercoat? The frames are already installed.

2: The same question as above, but with regard floor tiles. Before or after the tiles are laid?

3: Paint. What is the right method for paint? One undercoat and then? What top coat do you suggest for inside and also outside? Will be using TOA brand or maybe ICI

thanks so much

**the dogcatcher** · 06-02-2013, 10:01 PM

1. To late anyway.
2. Walls first.
3. The real problem here is if you buy good paint then the builder may substitute it for cheap shit and flog the good stuff to another punter.

**andy bryant** · 06-02-2013, 11:22 PM

nice one.
walls up frames in whilst going up,some like to put them in after but as for painting that comes when everything is done,a coat of undercoat and primer should go on the windows before fitting or atleast the edges that are going into the walls,but i dont think the thais follow that standard im afraid
again re;tiles painting is sort of on the way out the door if you know what i mean

**missinglink** · 07-02-2013, 02:38 AM

thanks for the replies so far.

Still need to clarify about the windows. The frames are in already, so it it worth installing the opening windows now or after the walls are painted?

With regard the builder swapping paint. Yep well aware of what they do here, so the paint will be given to him one tub at a time.

But would like to know tips for painting as per my opening post.

thanks again

**DrAndy** · 07-02-2013, 07:32 AM

Well, Miss

1. Anytime really

the frames will be painted seperately to the walls; once the walls have had a primer and first coat would be a good time to put all the window frames in and paint them with primer and undercoat. Last coat on the walls, then topcoat the windows

2. Laying floor tiles will splash cement all over your newly painted walls, so lay the tiles then paint the walls; you will have to protect the tiles from paint splash

3. Paint depends on your budget but the cheap stuff doesn't last long.

Method..you need to seal any new cement on the walls with a special product first, fill any imperfections with acrylic sealer
then paint at least two coats of good quality stuff. I use TOA 4Seasons exterior everywhere

**missinglink** · 07-02-2013, 08:21 AM

Thanks for the helpful replies Dr Andy.

What product for sealing the cement do you suggest? as they have just started to apply the undercoat, which I have told them to stop until I can the sealent and they start the floor tiles in the meantime.

**poorfalang** · 07-02-2013, 08:21 AM

you may learn with google that it vary from country to country from builder to builder

1. do the undercoat and the paint, then place windows/but if your worker is an ass then you will end up with dirty walls

2.when tiling the floor we tend do hammer it just slightly that may cause a splash and mess the walls there fore do the tilling first

3.Toa is just as good if applied the correct way

having said that there is something called masking tape, that what we use when repainting a house where tiles doors windows switches and all that already exists

Hope it helps

**DrAndy** · 07-02-2013, 08:29 AM

My experience of builders in Portugal does match those in Thailand....

**cambtek** · 07-02-2013, 01:36 PM

Some improved terminology required.
Window frame.
Sash.
Glazing.
Generally painting is done last, inside and out.But thai painters are probably messy little monkeys and trivialities like masking tape and dropsheets are ignored.

**Norton** · 07-02-2013, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by cambtek

Generally painting is done last, inside and out.

That's what they did on my place. Undercoat first, window frames/glass (aluminum), flooring then paint. All done very well. No fuss no mess.

**nevets** · 08-02-2013, 11:26 AM

masking tape if left on too long will not readily come off.
When painting walls keep floor tile or marble wett , paint will not stick and wipes of with a mop.

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