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    House in Chomphra (Surin Province)

    Hello everyone,

    Although we will start building in a few years (we still need the money hehe), I'm starting my own construction thread.

    Currently I'm still busy with making drawings, I will upload them somewhere next week when they're done. I've made a program of demands (sorry I'm not really sure what to call it in English). If you are interested, here is the download link (MS Word): UploadMB.com

    My mother-in-law gave us some land to use, it's near a river and quite nice. One tiny little flaw: we have to move the stables and banana trees. This is why we ordered some trucks full of dirt and a tractor to level it out, our plan is to start moving the stables next week and make it comfortable for the buffalo's again.

    After we have moved the lot, we must order more dirt for our new land. I've heard from some locals that some government company will dig "free" pools this year, you just have to pay for the gas and not for the labour. The plan is to dig a huge pool and use this to water the plants or feed fish.

    A few photo's from last week:


    This is where we will build our home.


    The view is going to be like this, the plants are lotus flowers, really beautiful in the morning.


    Filling up with dirt.


    24 trucks, not as many as I thought.


    The next day a tractor is levelling it out.


    Done! Here you can also see the hut we are building for my parents in law, we will basically live next door.



    I'll keep you guys posted.

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    Nice start, keep us posted as you get going .

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    Pretty sure ponds are basically free anywhere, they sell the fill, (which you have just bought..).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koetjeka
    After we have moved the lot, we must order more dirt for our new land. I've heard from some locals that some government company will dig "free" pools this year, you just have to pay for the gas and not for the labour.
    as said, the fill is worth quite a bit, they sell it on and make a good profit

    just dig your pond and use the earth to make up the rest of the land, much cheaper and easier

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    If they want to sell my fill I better hire someone else myself. I wanted to use the fill to make dikes around the pond and along the river because I don't want my house to end up like a pool in the raining season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koetjeka
    If they want to sell my fill I better hire someone else myself. I wanted to use the fill to make dikes around the pond and along the river because I don't want my house to end up like a pool in the raining season.
    Cool you are posting this up. Straight up front and real from the gitgo. Thanks for posting up. That was a great response. Just be sure you have enough fill on the land where you are going to build. Try to have it in up to a year early. Subsiding of earth is such a huge problem here.

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    Great beginnings. Looks like a good piece of land and the neighbors are friendly. Looking forward to your build contributions.

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    Good start to, what I'm sure will be, a great thread. I managed to open your 'list of demands' and the maps. Better if you could show them here, but no matter for now. I can strongly recommend factoring in a guest room and the planting of some baby trees, as these take a while to get started. Keep those pictures coming!

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    Do you know what the flooding history of the land is? You are very close to the river which looks quite high in the photo.

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    I looked at your document thanks. Your illustrations are certainly good. I didn't notice any costings though, presumably you have budget figures as a guide?

    Or maybe cost is of no significance to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Do you know what the flooding history of the land is? You are very close to the river which looks quite high in the photo.
    There is very little to no seasonal flooding in Amphoe Chom Phra or the immediate region.....not really an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koetjeka View Post
    The plan is to dig a huge pool and use this to water the plants or feed fish.
    Be careful if snakes find out about your fish in your pond. Ask me how I know this...

    Good luck !

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    You got off lucky with only 24 loads. I STARTED with 77. When the house was completed, I had a total of 109 loads. The lot is only a rye. Obviously, a load doesn't go very far when land is being filled.

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    1 Load of 5 cu m spreads over 5 sq m one metre deep

    so 20 loads will cover 100 sq m, then 80 loads will cover a Rai (400 sq m)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Do you know what the flooding history of the land is? You are very close to the river which looks quite high in the photo.
    There is very little to no seasonal flooding in Amphoe Chom Phra or the immediate region.....not really an issue.
    I take it this is your neck of the woods Rural.

    Is all fairly flat paddy fields sort of terrain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    1 Load of 5 cu m spreads over 5 sq m one metre deep

    so 20 loads will cover 100 sq m, then 80 loads will cover a Rai (400 sq m)
    ngan.

    320 loads for a rai. But you know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravesend Dave
    I take it this is your neck of the woods Rural.
    It is. It's in my foot of the woods. Been there many times. Flat with lot's of standing water but no real flood risk. Flooding risk is further south near Mun River.

    The guy who I had as project engineer for my house lives a few kilometers north.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    Yesterday we have been to the local "electricity office" to ask the price per meter of wiring to our home. Per 40m it's going to cost 7000THB. We will need about 300 so that's going to be 55.000THB. My wife had a better idea, she asked the neighbours whether they want to have electricity as well. We now found about 7 other people who are in need of electricity and we are going to write a letter to the office requesting free wiring along the road. Sure we will have to do the last 100 meters ourselves but it saves a lot of money. The only thing we will have to do is wait for probably a few months to a year, this is no problem though because we plan to start building after about 2 years.


    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Do you know what the flooding history of the land is? You are very close to the river which looks quite high in the photo.
    My wife told me that once every few years there will be a flood, but it has never reached the place where we plan to build our home. I will take no risk so I will order an additional layer of earth and probably some dikes.


    I looked at your document thanks. Your illustrations are certainly good. I didn't notice any costings though, presumably you have budget figures as a guide?

    Or maybe cost is of no significance to you.
    It is of big significance for me, I'm a poor foreigner hehe. I actually forgot to mention the budget, I'll try to keep it under 1mln THB but I'm afraid that building costs will rise in the coming years. We will not use the most expensive wood because I'm afraid it's going to cost a few million.


    You got off lucky with only 24 loads. I STARTED with 77. When the house was completed, I had a total of 109 loads. The lot is only a rye. Obviously, a load doesn't go very far when land is being filled.
    Yes only 24 loads but this area will be used to put the stalls of the parents in law. I'm afraid another 100-150 loads will be required for our own land.


    Good start to, what I'm sure will be, a great thread. I managed to open your 'list of demands' and the maps. Better if you could show them here, but no matter for now. I can strongly recommend factoring in a guest room and the planting of some baby trees, as these take a while to get started. Keep those pictures coming!
    I will try to post the list of demands on the forum. We will indeed plant some baby trees this year and a guest room has already been factored into the design (although we might convert it into a baby room later hehe).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    1 Load of 5 cu m spreads over 5 sq m one metre deep

    so 20 loads will cover 100 sq m, then 80 loads will cover a Rai (400 sq m)
    ngan.

    320 loads for a rai. But you know that.

    no, I don't

    my maths is in my post and it makes 80 loads

    where have I gone wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    1 Load of 5 cu m spreads over 5 sq m one metre deep

    so 20 loads will cover 100 sq m, then 80 loads will cover a Rai (400 sq m)
    ngan.

    320 loads for a rai. But you know that.

    no, I don't

    my maths is in my post and it makes 80 loads

    where have I gone wrong?


    "will cover a Rai (400 sq m)"

    400 sqm a ngan innit?
    1600 sq m a rai?

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    As far as I know 1 rai is 40x40m=1600sq m.

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    In my first post I gave a link to my list of demands but I guess it's better to post it directly instead of in a text file.

    List of demands
    1. Location
    The house is to be built in Chomphra (Surin province), in figure 1 marked A.

    Figure 1: Chomphra and Surin province. (source: google maps)



    The house is to be built North West of Chomphra, in Ban Rawee subdistrict, in figure 2 marked B

    Figure 2: Chomphra and Ban Rawee (source: google maps)



    The house (marked red) is to be built on former farmland, next to a small river and about 100 meters off-road. There is neither water nor electricity, the nearest electricity wires are 350 metres away (see figure 3).

    Figure 3: Former farmland.



    2. Design scheme
    Here you can see how we want the rooms of the house to be connected with each other.





    3. Rooms
    Required rooms and minimum dimensions:

    Master bedroom 10.5m2 3500(l)x3000(w)
    Guest bedroom 7.80m2 3000(l)x2600(w)
    Bathroom 6.00m2 3000(l)x2000(w)
    Living room 12.00m2 4000(l)x3000(w)
    Walk-in Closet 5.28m2 2400(l)x2200(w)
    Kitchen 7.20m2 3000(l)x2400(w)



    4. Esthetical expectations
    4.1 Exterior wall
    The exterior wall must be made of (hard)wood as shown in figures 4 and 5.


    Figure 4: Exterior wall of a traditional Thai house.


    Figure 5: Wood joints of the exterior wall.



    4.2 Roof
    The roof must be curved and covered with small roof tiles. As with traditional Thai houses, both ends of the roof must be decorated with wooden “naga’s”. Examples are shown in figures 6, 7 and 8.


    Figure 6: A traditional Thai house with curved roof.


    Figure 7: Another Thai house with curved roof, the beautiful “naga” at both ends of the roof.


    Figure 8: Part of this roof is supported by beautiful wood connected with the wall.



    4.3 Bathroom
    We really like the wooden sink, as shown in figure 9.


    Figure 9: Beautiful wooden sink.



    Another beauty, especially the wood around the shower and under the window (figure 10).


    Figure 10: Wood around the shower and under the window.



    The bathroom as shown in figure 11 looks really classy because of the woodwork.


    Figure 11: Classy bathroom.



    In figures 12 and 13 you can see a neat piece of craftsmanship, wood and mosaic combined.


    Figure 12: Wood and mosaic tiles under the toilet.


    Figure 13: Wood and mosaic tiles close-up.



    The bathroom in figure 14 has a lot of usable space and enough place to put the towels and accessories.


    Figure 14: A lot of space.



    Lovely woodwork around the bathtub in figures 15 and 16.


    Figure 15: Woodwork around the bathtub.


    Figure 16: Beautiful and classy woodwork around the bathtub.

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    You've just used up your 1 million budget on a pretty roof and bathroom.
    Wood in wet areas looks lovely, but is very high maintenance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koetjeka
    As far as I know 1 rai is 40x40m=1600sq m.
    oh damn, you are right, I am stupid

    so 320 loads 1m deep

    thanks

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    it all looks beautiful, but also very expensive

    if you have the budget, why not?

    go for it

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