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    Cheap (er) Re-claimed wood decking.

    I have to cover a 120m2 area with decking.

    Composite decking is too expensive.

    I am left with a choice of reclaimed Mai Deng (redwood) and Mai Sak (teak) to cover it with (adding stain and then polyurathane varnish.

    Anybody got a call about this?
    Teak is more expensive and tougher, but I think with the stain and proper varnishing redwood will do

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    Redwood is better for flooring raised off the ground it is actually stronger than teak, teak migt be better if its near the ground or on concrete. Raising it should avoid these issues, but redwood might be better. I would have thought concrete would be 100,000 for this size so wood migt be 150,000 for this size. Of course it just depends on the specifics of the build.

    Its quite a big deck maybe a compromise of half wood half concrete or a nice composite mix of the two to save on costs.

    Good luck
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    The rats living underneath that pile won't care less Shagnastypiece could use 4 ply they will be quite happy in their 5 star run around ,,

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    Cheers Ben -

    Nige, it will be stuffed with gold and amulets underneath.

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    If you are ever in the area, check out the floor of the Dubliner Irish Pub. Done with re-claimed wood dredged from the bottom of the Chao Phraya. Every piece is a different size which made it nice and there are some massive pieces. Can't remember how much it cost but it has an amazing look.

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    ^Cheers dude -I'll check it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fresh Prince
    If you are ever in the area, check out the floor of the Dubliner Irish Pub. Done with re-claimed wood dredged from the bottom of the Chao Phraya.
    And it gives that authentic Thai wobbly table thing too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    And it gives that authentic Thai wobbly table thing too.
    We call that the 'Rustic' feel.

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    I'd go with the Mai Daeng. I have it in my place and very happy with it. No idea cost of reclaimed but unused is pricey. About 1,200 baht per square meter for tongue and groove flooring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fresh Prince View Post
    If you are ever in the area, check out the floor of the Dubliner Irish Pub. Done with re-claimed wood dredged from the bottom of the Chao Phraya. Every piece is a different size which made it nice and there are some massive pieces. Can't remember how much it cost but it has an amazing look.
    Must have been expensive as everything in the bar is, so maybe that is why?

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    Well, Wimpy bought his house wood for 10K?
    Go out to the country and buy a rice barn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99
    Go out to the country and buy a rice barn.
    Yep. A good way to go.

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    ^ Yes - that's a possibility. However. I've just got the redwood at 800bt/m2 (cleaned/planed/un-stained/un-varnished)

    A mate just told me there are another couple of wood options at about half that price again per m2 but I have to go buy it in Lat Buri

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier
    I've just got the redwood at 800bt/m2 (cleaned/planed/un-stained/un-varnished)
    Not a bad price. Assume not tongue and groove?

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    Nope - just clean boards. I'll lay then over cross beams sitting on sleepers sited on concrete/steel foundation legs. Then cover them 1 coat stain/3 coats polyurathane

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier
    1 coat stain/3 coats polyurethane
    I only used TOA Deck stain. It has a matte finish. If you use polyurethane make sure it's exterior polyurethane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    I only used TOA Deck stain
    How many coats, and how long's it lasted so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier
    How many coats, and how long's it lasted so far?
    3. 6 years. time for a good sanding and re-coat however. maybe tomorrow

    This stuff



    This link work?

    TOA Group - Excellent and Expertise

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    I used exterior polyurethane on my decking. It started peeling after 12 months so i would recommend a deck stain as a more suitable alternative.

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    The re-claimed timber suppliers reccomended 3 coats stain and one coat varnish.

    The stain/varnish dealer said 1 coat stain 3 coats varnish. He said more that 1 coat of stain the varnish won't take properly. After your 2 answers (6 years and 12 months) seems the TOA route might be a winner.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    This link work? TOA Group - Excellent and Expertise
    Certainly does mate - nice one

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    I have a friend who used teak oil. He's happy with the results. Used on the house not a deck however.

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    I base my calculations on wood ive seen a lot, which is mai daeng, now you know the good stuff because its heavy! Normally in 3 meter lengths and about 25cm wide minimum.
    I would say about 100 badt a sok or 50cm length. This works out at 7200 for 9m2 or 800badt m2.

    You should get a better discount for the amount you need. But i suppose this depends whether you consider the planing is worth that price difference. It probably is, so i would say thats a good deal. These are based on chiangmai prices from my local yard that i know well.

    I have previously got very good mai daeng, by this i mean an inch thick 37-45cm width planks 3.5 meters long for 150 badt per sok. Would you use it for exterior wood like this, no, you would save it for a rainy day.

    Wood changes prices all the time, sometimes for a reason not able to understood by both parties. However there are good deals to be had, whilst most people think its an expense, its really not you just need to make friends out of your local wood yard.

    We commonly eat bbq pork, beer and whiskey as the sun goes down with our local wood yard friends. Then youll start to be given any price you want.

    Anyway sounds like you got some good stuff. Some pics are expected. Cheers

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