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    Bali Open-Air Style Pool House

    We've bought the 8.4x21.5 plot next you our house and are planning to build a pool and pool house there, I've been messing around with some designs on Sketchup and wanted to get some feedback.

    When we originally build our place I toyed with the idea of doing a Bali style house where the living areas are completely open air and flow seamlessly into the outside area. The idea was to controversial for my wife who worried that we might have trouble selling it in the future.

    Anyway now living in the house the front room and dining room are effectively dead space as we almost always eat and relax outside on the veranda.

    For various reasons we are now putting in a pool and a pool house, which will in fact be a self contained annex where visiting relatives can stay. I'd rather not get into the long list of reasons not to have a pool, it's a well covered topic already on this forum.

    Here are the drawings I've done:















    So those give you an idea of what I'm thinking about. Here are the questions marks I still have:

    Cathedral Ceilings:

    Almost all of the villa's in Bali have underside of the roof exposed. Even if the room is well ventilated, will the radiated heat increase the temperature of the room?


    Bugs:

    Were in a rural area and you sometimes get loads of bugs swarming around the lights. I've learned a few tricks now, like having a bright flood light away from the living area and dim lights in the living area. Waiting until it's dark before turning the lights on. etc. But I would love to hear more.


    Security:

    Obviously it would need to be secured at night or when we go away. I was thinking about motorised roller shutters. The beamwork would be designed in such a way that they're out of sight when open.


    Privacy:

    Although open air living might be great during a two week holiday in Bali. I wonder if it might be annoying over a longer period, my kids wondering in and out bugging grandparents any time they feel like it.

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    Looks smart mate.

    You doing this in Cambo?

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    If you don't want exposed beams but still want a bit of height you could suspend a coffered ceiling.This would have several benefits in that you could conceal security roller shutters in the surrounding bulkheads and you could also insulate above the ceiling and install ceiling fans below.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smug Farang Bore View Post
    Looks smart mate.

    You doing this in Cambo?
    Yes. The house is already there, there's another build thread on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisInCambo
    When we originally build our place I toyed with the idea of doing a Bali style house where the living areas are completely open air and flow seamlessly into the outside area. The idea was to controversial for my wife who worried that we might have trouble selling it in the future. Anyway now living in the house the front room and dining room are effectively dead space as we almost always eat and relax outside on the veranda.
    I have always said that many houses are built in Western style without real knowedge of the tropics, or even thinking about how you would actually live. I have been to lots of friends houses who have exactly the same experience - rooms which are hardly used

    never mind selling in the future, the house is for you now. A nice outside space is a good selling point anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisInCambo
    Almost all of the villa's in Bali have underside of the roof exposed. Even if the room is well ventilated, will the radiated heat increase the temperature of the room?
    no, if the space has few walls any heat just goes; radiated heat cannot be felt over about 20/30 cm from the roof (I have a space like that and checked). Of course, if the room is enclosed the heat will be able to build up

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    Security:
    I suppose people might use your pool when you are not there....

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    just from your kids? then they get everywhere anyway!
    I have reported your post

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    Just a thought for your pool.In my previous house I had a considerable sized pool but soon realized that it was not such a good idea. We merely splashed around so a small pool would of worked fine and saved a heap in energy bills and chemicals. Had this small plunge pool in Bali, it was brilliant, in and out all day.
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    ^ I suppose it depends on what the pool is for

    A small pool like that is fine for kids and for cooling off, but not for serious exercise or swimming

    although you can get elastic swimming gear now that lets you swim like a nutter and stay in one place!

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    ^

    The vast majority of punters do not use there home pools for exercise, its just for fun hence why a larger pool can sometimes be an expensive item if its too big.

    Factor in cleaning and maintenance costs and a big pool can become a burden.

    Depends what the OP wants I suppose.

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    Spa sized pools are terrible if you have kids. They jump and bomb in and out and in about 20 min the spa is half empty.

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    For sure. One needs to choose carefully a pool to suit there needs.

    Kids put a whole new spin on things.

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    Trying to truly secure it for when you are not there is probably pointless, if they want to get in they will. How about big wooden shutters on the side and bifolds on the front. they can then manage the level of privacy they want themselves while still giving you the option to open it up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
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    For sure. One needs to choose carefully a pool to suit there needs.

    Kids put a whole new spin on things.

    Of course he may have really well behaved kids who listen when they are told not to jump in the spa....but I have never seen any of those.

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    I wish I had followed Terry's advice, put a fairly large pool in, been in it once this year, maintenance costs are not high as it is a salt water pool but running costs are around 2,00 Baht a month for electric, wish I could part ex it for a smaller model

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    I wish I had followed Terry's advice, put a fairly large pool in, been in it once this year, maintenance costs are not high as it is a salt water pool but running costs are around 2,00 Baht a month for electric, wish I could part ex it for a smaller model

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    I have used mine most afternoons when it has become a bit warm

    just get in and cool down

    don't need a big pool for that!

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    We live up near prasat Surin, we put in a fibre glass pool from Navinda Phuket, 9m x 4m x 1.5m deep , ( jaccuzi is 4 jets at steps end ) and a swim jet at the other end, 3 pumps in all plus filter etc, when it was put in I had to return to work so as a quick fix to help keep it clean and keep the dog out I put a 12m x 6m rounded roof tent over it with the green mesh sun screen around to keep the sun out and leaves etc. it has been in one year now and is very easily maintained, used almost daily, Big enough pool for us. Worth a look at there web site.

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    Open plan is the way to go as far as I am concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
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    For sure. One needs to choose carefully a pool to suit there needs.

    Kids put a whole new spin on things.

    Of course he may have really well behaved kids who listen when they are told not to jump in the spa....but I have never seen any of those.

    You won't

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    Chris, had pools all my life. If it's just the two of you Terry's idea is best.

    If there are kids I suggest you go bigger.

    A few spa jets and a seat built at one end of a bigger pool is worth some thought.

    Be prepared to do all the maintenance, cleaning etc unless you can afford help. Saltwater with a sand filter works well in Darwin, similar climate to here.

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    that pool is going to collect loads of dust and grime and dirt being close to the road, is it busy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunsetter View Post
    that pool is going to collect loads of dust and grime and dirt being close to the road, is it busy?
    No, it's a dead end gravel road and currently mine is the last house, so only traffic is our own.

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    Looks nice! Were it me, I might want to extend the roof over the pool a bit, cover 30% of the pool or something like that. That way you can wade about in the pool at mid day without getting too much sun. Granted if the pool is on the north side of the pool house it will already get some shade at mid day so maybe a non issue.

    I would also consider building a shallow sitting area adjacent to the pool house where you can sit in about a foot of water with your legs dangling in the deeper area. Great spot for gin tonics in the hot sun.

    I might also knock out the wall where you have the small dresser and refrigerator on the house facing side to try get more airflow. Maybe put the fridge where you have the counter, knock out the wall where the fridge is and put a counter with sink there.

    Lastly I would fit a shower somewhere so you can wash the pool water off easily between dips.

    I think you have a great idea and that when you build this, you will be well pleased. My guess is that you will use it more than the main house for everything other than sleeping!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moolek View Post
    Looks nice! Were it me, I might want to extend the roof over the pool a bit, cover 30% of the pool or something like that. That way you can wade about in the pool at mid day without getting too much sun. Granted if the pool is on the north side of the pool house it will already get some shade at mid day so maybe a non issue.

    I would also consider building a shallow sitting area adjacent to the pool house where you can sit in about a foot of water with your legs dangling in the deeper area. Great spot for gin tonics in the hot sun.

    I might also knock out the wall where you have the small dresser and refrigerator on the house facing side to try get more airflow. Maybe put the fridge where you have the counter, knock out the wall where the fridge is and put a counter with sink there.

    Lastly I would fit a shower somewhere so you can wash the pool water off easily between dips.

    I think you have a great idea and that when you build this, you will be well pleased. My guess is that you will use it more than the main house for everything other than sleeping!
    Thanks for the ideas Moolek, much appreciated. The roof thing is a good idea. The house is south facing. I was planning on putting some trees to the right of the pool, maybe some foxtail palms and other things that won't drop loads of leaves, but you're right that won't stop the midday sun, or even the afternoon sun come to that and the hottest part of the day is often when you'll most feel like a dip.

    I left the wall where the fridge is because although it's not clear on the pic there's a kitchen and bathroom window from the granny annex in the main house the other side of the wall. I think having those windows looking straight into your front room wouldn't feel nice.

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    We built an open style place, generally it's great, but there's problems when there's heavy rain and wind.

    Cathedral Ceilings:

    Lots of the places I've seen in Bali are thatch roof surrounded by gardens. It looks like you'll be using mostly concrete, I think the place will be hot day and night. I would look at having concrete to a minimum and using trees/plants to create as much shade as possible.


    Bugs:

    Less of a problem than you think, having the lights up high, using fans and mozzie coils will help alot.

    Security:

    I wouldn't have anything valuable that could easily be carried away, motorized screens would be complicated.

    Privacy:

    The grandparents may enjoy being bothered by the kids. I'd look at plants and roll down screens to help privacy.

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    Thanks for the feedback. Especially interesting about the heat, the house next door is pretty cool, but the roof is very well insulated and ventilated this open style place would have very could ventilation but not the insulation to block the radiated heat.

    hmmm a lot to think about, heat is a biggy, I can live with just about anything else, but a hot building is a real show stopper.

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