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    Wood stain, wood house, would you?

    I have a question for those that are knowledgable about wood finishing, if you would be so kind.

    I have had the main house(teak wood) finished by a professional team, whilst im happy with work and the price. I couldnt help thinking that i could have saved a lot more money by getting wood stain(very cheap even the good brands- also have a discount if you bring the lid back) and applying 2 coats on the outside, as they have done on the main house, also applied to the inside. So the question is would this also apply to the inside walls and underneath(ceiling of downstairs) of the house?

    Im just thinking in this method, little sanding is needed because wood is planed and the finish is identical to the other with less labour intensive methods.

    We had them sand and apply a plethora of substances(alcohol, thinner, laqcuer, shellac) to the inside to get the finished look, but when compared to a nice sanded teak board with clear wood stain they looked very similar if not identical.
    The wood is planed first and so little sanding is needed apart from hole filling, and some hand finishing for inside.
    With this wood stain im not so bothered by time it lasts because its so cheap then the myriad of materials we had to buy for the main house, repainting in 2-3 years is less important. It seems a simple solution and i was just wondering whether ive over simplified it at all?

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    Which wood stain did you use?

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    ICI cuprinol semi gloss clear. Although we tried Chaindrite matt clear as well the results were pretty much identical. This i can get for 450 badt per can with the money back.

    We look at tung oil, teak oil but the house is massive and would take a lot. I was looking at shellac because its a natural local product, which is what we have used inside the main house. However i just want simple in a can, so i can get my builder to put it on.

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    I would only use teak oil, two coats, never any chemical stuff on teak

    after a couple of years, you can put another coat on or enjoy the weathering of the wood

    Berger teak oil is B800 for 5 litres and goes a long way

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    I would never lacquer a hardwood because it looks crap and the wood doesn't like it as much as oil.

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    Do you need to thin the oil, or apply out of the can? I am getting ready to finish my teak panels for the house and would like to use teak oil. Does the wood not grey over time using the oil?

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    Yes i see what your saying, I would still use wood stain on the exterior because no-one will be licking it or breathing it in. Teak oil sounds right for the interior, but i havent found anything bigger than a 1 litre can from chaindrite. Looked everywhere, but now i will persue the berger.

    Marmite - you might be right, however the look on the house looks great the finish is natural and not shiny. I have nothing to complain about what they have done, i just think there is an alternative that is cheaper.

    So wood stain on the outside walls and eaves, teak oil everywhere else.

    Thanks.

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    Global House has several different brands of teak oil in 4-5 liter cans.

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    See i went there recently, i live over the road, but i could get only the small can of chaindrite. I will try it on the inside and see what it looks like, well i know its going to look great, but to ease the mind.
    I think they say on the can 4 li does 20m2 of 2 coats, 40m2 one coat. The only thing with oil is you need to keep the air out right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    I would only use teak oil, two coats, never any chemical stuff on teak

    after a couple of years, you can put another coat on or enjoy the weathering of the wood

    Berger teak oil is B800 for 5 litres and goes a long way
    Tongue oil might be an offering as an all-around application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Do you need to thin the oil, or apply out of the can? I am getting ready to finish my teak panels for the house and would like to use teak oil. Does the wood not grey over time using the oil?
    I apply straight from the can; one coat, let it soak in, second coat (probably uses less)

    the grey colour is surface weathering; the teak oil should stop that happening. You will need to reapply the oil after a year, if in direct sun, or two or three years, if not. Up to you. After that, whenever it needs it
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    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk
    but i havent found anything bigger than a 1 litre can from chaindrite. Looked everywhere, but now i will persue the berger.
    Berger, TOA and (?) another all do 1 gallon and 4.5 litre cans, or thereabouts, but the Berger works out cheapest

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    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk
    The only thing with oil is you need to keep the air out right?
    what? applying oil is so easy, just brush it on and work it into any cracks

    good for your skin too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    I would only use teak oil, two coats, never any chemical stuff on teak

    after a couple of years, you can put another coat on or enjoy the weathering of the wood

    Berger teak oil is B800 for 5 litres and goes a long way
    Tongue oil might be an offering as an all-around application.

    Tung oil would be i cant find it, anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk
    The only thing with oil is you need to keep the air out right?
    what? applying oil is so easy, just brush it on and work it into any cracks

    good for your skin too!

    Sorry, I wasnt talking about application, but instead preserving what you have when you're not using it. You have to take the air out of the can dont you, so it doesnt create a film, because thats how the oil cures with contact from air?
    Have you used this on the wood houses you have, or did you use something else?
    Im going to definitely use it in the kitchen apparently, for kitchen work tops, not chemical and has been tested to be ok with food touching it.
    Thanks everyone for the tips.

    ^NONSENSE. TUNG OIL NOT TEAK OIL
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    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk
    I wasnt talking about application but preserving what you have when you're not using it. You have to take the air out of the can dont you, so it doesnt create a film, because thats how the oil cures with contact from air?
    Ben, you really will have to think about the wording of your posts, you are often very confusing

    as for the oil, I just screw the top back on and it will last like that (if only a little left, put it into a smaller container). The only problem I have had is opening those cheap tin tops again, so it is best to clean the screw before closing

    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk
    Have you used this on the wood houses you have
    yes, you must know that by now!
    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk
    Im going to definitely use it in the kitchen
    we used it on the cabinet doors but not the wooden worktops in the cottages

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    Tongue oil might be an offering as an all-around application
    you can use a brush

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    [quote=benlovesnuk;2056964][quote=DrAndy;2056742]
    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk
    The only thing
    I wasnt talking about application but preserving what you have when you're not using it. You have to take the air out of the can dont you, so it doesnt create a film, because thats how the oil cures with contact from air?
    Have you used this on the wood houses you have, or did you use something else?
    Im going to definitely use it in the kitchen apparently, for kitchen work tops, not chemical and has been tested to be ok with food touching it.
    Thanks everyone for the tips.
    I have a can of Woodtect Teak Oil here. It doesn't say anything about being food safe. It does say it is flammable, so it probably contains turpentine or some other petroleum distillates. If I had a wood surface where I was preparing food, I think I would leave it bare or coat it with something like cooking oil.

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    I read that shellac is edible as well.

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    cooking oil is also flammable

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    cooking oil is also flammable
    Not poisonous though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk
    I wasnt talking about application but preserving what you have when you're not using it. You have to take the air out of the can dont you, so it doesnt create a film, because thats how the oil cures with contact from air?
    Ben, you really will have to think about the wording of your posts, you are often very confusing

    as for the oil, I just screw the top back on and it will last like that (if only a little left, put it into a smaller container). The only problem I have had is opening those cheap tin tops again, so it is best to clean the screw before closing

    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk
    Have you used this on the wood houses you have
    yes, you must know that by now!
    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk
    Im going to definitely use it in the kitchen
    we used it on the cabinet doors but not the wooden worktops in the cottages
    Thanks Dr. A for the compliment. i must be confusing the oils, it was tung oil i was confusing the teak for, on both accounts. Linseed is very nasty apparently, so yes that was a BIG mistake.
    Teak oil is mainly for furniture, and tung you can use semi/safely i believe on kitchen unless you have a nut allergy.
    If someone could clarify i would be most appreciative.

    English has a splendor that it makes sense but could be construed as confusing.

    cheers.

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