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    Amnat Charoen - who complede my house?

    Hi there, my house in Amnat Charoen need to complede, the local constructor can`t do it. Any recommendations?

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    try another builder

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    Some details might be useful- I mean, what needs completing? just windows and doors, or a whole lot more than that?

    Anyhow- there is a competent builder based in Ban Yangadow - about 20km south of Trakhan, so not far from you. He built my mates place, an expat, and did a good job. He's a 'proper' builder incidentally- trade qualified and all that. He didn't build my place, mainly because I didn't know about him- and local enquiry at the time only unearthed monkeys. They came down from Khon Kaen, and also did a good job- but I think the logistics would preclude them being able to do a competitive job just for completing your house.

    If you're interested in hearing from him, well you need 10 (or is it 100) posts to send me a PM, so just put it on another post in this thread and I'll be happy to PM you his details.
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    Ask Marmite, he's good with builders

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    Now you have made me spit out beer all over my keyboard and monitor.

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    If your house can't complede the local contractor, try a non-local contractor. Maybe the house can complede him. In any case, have some more bhat ready.

    Oh, one more thing... if you're a Farang, it's not your house, you're just building it for a Thai person you trust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    Ask Marmite, he's good with builders
    Indeed. Ask anything you want.

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    Be VERY careful of who you choose. Take it from a fools advise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YES24 View Post
    Hi there, my house in Amnat Charoen need to complede, the local constructor can`t do it. Any recommendations?
    I'll do it.
    I have PM'd my bank account details and am awaiting payment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crocod ilexp View Post
    If your house can't complede the local contractor, try a non-local contractor. Maybe the house can complede him. In any case, have some more bhat ready.

    Oh, one more thing... if you're a Farang, it's not your house, you're just building it for a Thai person you trust.
    why wouldn't it be his house then ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adzt1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by crocod ilexp View Post
    Oh, one more thing... if you're a Farang, it's not your house, you're just building it for a Thai person you trust.
    Why wouldn't it be his house then ?
    Foreigners cannot own land in Thailand. In case the Thai land owner no longer wants him living there, he's out. Theoretically, he could own the house itself, if he's able to move it off the land to another plot of land (that he wouldn't own either).

    There are various legal contraptions offering some degree of protection to foreign residents (e.g. usufructs, long-term rentals), but no matter what, land can only be owned by Thai citizens.

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    no need to move the house. if u have a lease that lets u build and have a house on it u can renew the lease or force purchase the house if not.. that's every 30 yrs.

    usafract is 99 years , id say that is as good as owning the land..

    farang can own a house 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralphlsasser
    Be VERY careful of who you choose. Take it from a fools advise.
    Indeed. Oh, but the MIL knows a cousin who is a good builder. He can do the job, no problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adzt1
    usafract is 99 years , id say that is as good as owning the land.. farang can own a house 100%.
    You'd say does not make it fact. 99 years is all ya get. Thats a lease not owning it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one
    Thats a lease not owning it.
    correct most certainly not ownership

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    u2 above are confused.
    the debate was on a farang can never own a house.

    croc first stated that if ur a farang its not ur house ur just building it for someone else u trust.

    then in a later post he says yes a farang could own a house ( that was the original debate )
    but he goes on to say the land owner can kick you off as he owns the land.
    my point is if u have a 30 yr lease or a 99 yr usafract he's gonna wait a fuckin long time.

    ageing one read my post ,, it says that id say that's as GOOD AS owning it.

    sunset ur just posting repeats ..

    now a usafract that lasts 99 years and a 30 yr lease on land that's got a channott ti din or sor born sarm , (both the same) , if u are allowed to build as stated in the lease I was under the impression that after 30 yrs the lease must be renewed or a compulsory purchase if so on buildings .

    ^ that's just to mix thing up for u , I'm ready for debate.

    my original point and I ask u to prove me wrong is that a farang can own a house in Thailand.

    before u start a tabien bhan only proves u are a resident at that address.
    receipts for materials and or a bill of sale are proof of ownership that will stand in court!!!

    I'm ready!!

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    @adzt

    Maximum duration of a lease in Thailand is 30 years by law. Your lawyer can write anything they want into the contract (e.g. 999 year lease, mandatory renewals, sale rights, free massages), but none of these would stand up in court if the land owner disagrees and hires a decent lawyer.

    Usufruct grants some limited rights, but is NOT equivalent to owning property outright. You can live there, and rent it out without interference (i.e. can't be evicted), but you cannot sell the land or assign it for inheritance in your will, unless the land owner agrees. I would call that long-term paid-upfront rental, not ownership.

    Of course, if the land-owner is your partner, as long as you're on good terms with them, you won't have problems... but you still don't actually own the land.

    Theoretically if the Thai land owner acquired the property while she was married to you, then you could claim 50% of the proceeds from a sale. However, if the ex-wife and you are not on good terms, claiming that could be difficult (i.e. they could officially sell for much less than the property is worth).

    This being Thailand, people who have the upper hand can get away with many things which may not be strictly legal, but from the standpoint of the law, you don't own the land, just live on it, usufruct or not.

    (As for owning the house: a Farang could own the actual building outright in some situations, but never the land it stands on. If the owner kicks you off the land when the lease ends, you might have the right to demolish the house, or disassemble it and assemble it elsewhere... whether it's physically feasible is another question. It might give you some negotiation leverage.)
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    your just going round in circles..
    my original quote was ,farang can own 100% of a house in Thai. buy own I mean have the right to do anything u want like sell it... then put all the money in ur pocket..

    I didn't question land atall now did I? all I said was FARANG CAN OWN A HOUSE ... That's it,,
    even in the above post u state farang can own a house or building..

    u are preaching stuff that's common knowledge about land and leases



    here's another one for u , it goes a little deeper.
    I own my house 100% (we have discussed this). I can prove where the money came from and I possess all the receipts. my wife cannot sell this house full stop...

    now here's the theory .
    the land its built on is in my wifes name . now being married gives me the right to 50% of the land value..
    there is a bit of paper that some have to sign(I didn't ) that says u the farang have no claim to any land possessed by her ..
    well in recent court cases that bit of paper is over ridden because the power of international marrage cert carrys more weight than Thai sub laws , even in Thailand

    so therefore I technically own half .


    Its a big can of worms I know but I enjoy ur input so ,,, ur thoughts on that point are welcome

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    If you were to sell your house (that you 100% own), who would really want to pay the full market value for it without owning the land? Maybe some other hopeful Farang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by adzt1
    its not ur house

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    ^ ur boring with ur repeat posting... yawn.

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    oh and your not with the ' i own my house' ? who gives two fcuks anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by adzt1
    I didn't question land atall now did I? all I said was FARANG CAN OWN A HOUSE
    as most houses tend to be built on land, it hardly matters (unless it is a nice teak dismountable palace). The rubble from a house is worthless generally, so this discussion is meaningless

    you own the house, not the land, so what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunsetter
    who gives two fcuks anyway
    not even worth one

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    Maximum lease is 30 years....but.
    What if There are 2 leases...
    First on starts 1 January 2012 and expires 31 December 2031.
    Second starts on 1 January 2032.

    Why would the second lease not be recognized?

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