Thread: iPAD vs Tablet PC: Forget the iPAD

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

If you need large hard drive storage, a webcam, etc, then iPad is not for you, and a laptop might be the better choice.

quite so.

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

If you need large hard drive storage, a webcam, etc, then iPad is not for you, and a laptop might be the better choice.

quite so.

I'm sorry, but could you explain what is allegedly comedic about that statements?

It's quite obvious that the iPad is not for a certain number of people - it's normally the case that sufficiently advanced technology confuses those who have grown up and grown familiar with what is then legacy technology.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

But if you want something with laptop capabilities, then get a netbook

I disagree, most of the netbooks cannot be compared with proper laptops.

Originally Posted by Wallalai

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

But if you want something with laptop capabilities, then get a netbook

I disagree, most of the netbooks cannot be compared with proper laptops.

True but for many tasks they will do fine.

^ Basic tasks, like internet browsing, mail, word processing, Skype & msn chat, movies and pictures .

They are almost all based on Atom chipset, cannot compare with a C2D, i3,5 or 7.

i ^ Basic tasks, like internet browsing, mail, word processing, Skype & msn chat, movies and pictures

So pretty well most of what you'd want to do on a Laptop then, with more portability and longer battery life. And connecting all of your portable devices, in my case Symbian, Android and Windows Mobile phones, digital camera, etc.

I also use mine to remotely control my office desktops and servers and watch my Slingbox (both essential when I'm travelling!).

Of course what I don't use it for is software development, 3D modelling and shit, but I don't know too many people that want to do that on the road anyway. But if they do there are laptops available at a suitable premium.

But I digress (and so do you). The point is that unless your Internet use is limited to web surfing the sites to which Apple limit you, and using the applications to which Apple limit you, then a Netbook is a far more flexible choice (and probably better value. It's inevitable that if Apple see the chance to sell an external device when they could have made it integrated, they'll stick an 'I" in front of it and charge you more).

No-one is disputing that, for some things that require it, you might need a bit more juice than a Netbook can provide.

But if you need that, you definitely don't need an iPad either.

So it's probably not relevant to this thread.

More relevant to a "Netbook vs Laptop" thread, sure.

^^ which is 99% of what the population does only

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

I'm sorry, but could you explain what is allegedly comedic about that statements?

you, Quack Quack, you are fucking comedy central

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

It's quite obvious that the iPad is not for a certain number of people

Dude, remember it's a machine for the Elite, they are for the chosen people

Originally Posted by mr Fred

After looking at the ipad I think windows versions will do more and be much more usfull than the iversion.

But from whom? Windows?

Originally Posted by mr Fred

True but for many tasks they will do fine.

As obviously (for several million purchasers) the iPad will also.

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

If you need large hard drive storage, a webcam, etc, then iPad is not for you, and a laptop might be the better choice.

quite so.

I'm sorry, but could you explain what is allegedly comedic about that statements?
.

The fact that the Iwank is only good for reading some webpages....

A laptop might be a better choice for anyone who wants hard drive space, usb posts, web camera, actually anything that a computer might do, ...



too funny !

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

i ^ Basic tasks, like internet browsing, mail, word processing, Skype & msn chat, movies and pictures

So pretty well most of what you'd want to do on a Laptop then, with more portability and longer battery life. And connecting all of your portable devices, in my case Symbian, Android and Windows Mobile phones, digital camera, etc.

I also use mine to remotely control my office desktops and servers and watch my Slingbox (both essential when I'm travelling!).

Of course what I don't use it for is software development, 3D modelling and shit, but I don't know too many people that want to do that on the road anyway. But if they do there are laptops available at a suitable premium.

But I digress (and so do you). The point is that unless your Internet use is limited to web surfing the sites to which Apple limit you, and using the applications to which Apple limit you, then a Netbook is a far more flexible choice (and probably better value. It's inevitable that if Apple see the chance to sell an external device when they could have made it integrated, they'll stick an 'I" in front of it and charge you more).

No-one is disputing that, for some things that require it, you might need a bit more juice than a Netbook can provide.

But if you need that, you definitely don't need an iPad either.

So it's probably not relevant to this thread.

More relevant to a "Netbook vs Laptop" thread, sure.

The problem that I have with net books is that they do many things, but not very well. In this respect, I think the iPad has a reasonable niche in covering the gap of smart phones/laptops, better than a net book. There are many small, high power laptops on the market (Apple's MacBook Pro 13" for example), if you need serious power.

But, as with anything, and this is what's really great, it of course comes down to personal choice. You want to stare longingly out of a 'Window'? Or enjoy a juicy 'Apple'??

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

But if you need that, you definitely don't need an iPad either.

I don't need an iPad and I'll not buy one soon, I don't even own a mobile phone since 8 years.

I have an iMac and a 13" Macbook Pro and that's all. And I can say that both are able to manage all the tasks I need with a computer. Not only the basic netbook tasks.

Originally Posted by PAG

But, as with anything, and this is what's really great, it of course comes down to personal choice. You want to stare longingly out of a 'Window'? Or enjoy a juicy 'Apple'??

erm, price ?

functionality ?

or

clever marketing....

I'm not sure where you get this downer on the Atom. I can play 700Mb movie rips on it without any problem, and I've been doing that on 7 hour flights without needing battery changes for the last couple of years on a netbook.

Plus all the other stuff I mentioned before.

That's as much power I need as I need.

The iPad can't do all of it, and neither can the Mac. That's why I chose the Netbook currently running Windows 7/Office 2010 (dual booting Linux du jour, which is currently Meego). Not as fast or impressive as the Dell XPS I've got at home, but then again that doesn't slot into my hand luggage and last for 7 hours without needing a recharge or a battery change.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

No-one is disputing that, for some things that require it, you might need a bit more juice than a Netbook can provide.

But if you need that, you definitely don't need an iPad either.

So it's probably not relevant to this thread.

I'm sorry, but you put it on the table in the post #61.

But if you want something with laptop capabilities, then get a netbook, or hold out for the Windows, Linux and Android versions.

Battery life on mac is not that bad as you think, I bought this Macbook pro 13 " 1 year ago and the original battery is wealthy as you can see on this screenshot i made few minutes ago.


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Originally Posted by mr Fred

There is shit all very advanced about the ipanty pad. It's short of the normal ports that make it much use for anything except a handy web browser.
You even have to use adaptors for USB. I ditched my last laptop that needed that years ago. Does it have a floppy drive?

You're part of shrinking minority of dinosaurs, it seems, that value solely hardware specs, and ignores that technology is 'software' & functionality, not specs and numbers.

The very fact that you appear to bemoan the lack of a floppy drive, in 2010, is indicative of that - unless you were trying to make a joke.

The reasons you a listing for needing a USB connection (continuing to deny that iPad has one) are all functions that I perform mostly wirelessly.

But, as I said, there's a growing demographic of people that the iPad's simplicity and efficiency appeals to, just as there is a demographic that is better served by alternate devices, such as laptops.

The net book market, though, is on the decline, and is literally being cannibalized by iPad. This doesn't affect the laptop market - there will be a place for the added functionality a laptop provides for quite a while longer. I see the iPad for more as complementary to my computing devices, in my case, but perfectly capable as a primary computing device for consumers who just need a communicating device that doesn't stand in their way of getting things done.

Analyst: iPad on track to outgrow netbooks

Morgan Stanley sees iPad already slowing netbooks

The iPad's sales rate is fast enough that it could grow faster in its first year than netbooks, Morgan Stanley analyst Katy Huberty estimated today. Having increased the expected iPad shipments in 2010 from 6 million to 10 million, Huberty estimates Apple could move 13 million to 16 million iPads in the tablet's first full year, or well over the 7.6 million netbooks that sold in that category's first 12 months.
The researcher also updated previous netbook estimates and found that the iPad had an even more destructive effect on netbook sales in the US during April than previously thought. Apple's slate was originally thought to have just flattened growth from year to year, but the netbook market ultimately shrank 13 percent compared to April last year.

Such a drop is not only rare but suggests to Huberty that netbooks may have finally reached their maximum sales potential. Tablets could not only continue to gain momentum but could pass netbooks in 2012, she said.

Part of the popularity could come from the usefulness of the iPad as an actual computing device instead of as a media companion. A typical iPad owner views about 38 web pages per day; the number is nearly as high as for a desktop Linux owner and more than twice as many as for an iPhone user, who visits an average of 18. Windows and Mac users are still prolific at a respective 67 and 117 pages per day.

Morgan Stanley's data doesn't touch on foreign sales, although the iPad didn't ship to other countries until late May. The effect of Apple may be less in these areas regardless, as countries with lower median incomes are less likely to buy a strictly secondary tablet and more likely to want a device that can function more independently, like a netbook. Apple's pricing is also about $200 higher than for a typical netbook and may discourage more cost-sensitive buyers.

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

The fact that the Iwank is only good for reading some webpages....

A laptop might be a better choice for anyone who wants hard drive space, usb posts, web camera, actually anything that a computer might do, ...

No one ever denied that. In fact, that's one of the first things I pointed cut, that the will certainly be applications where a laptop is more appropriate that an iPad. That's no point of contention. In fact many others in this thread have said so as well.

So, can you explain again what was so funny about your statement?

Originally Posted by PAG

The problem that I have with net books is that they do many things, but not very well.

What does the iPad do well that a netbook doesn't?

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

The very fact that you appear to bemoan the lack of a floppy drive, in 2010, is indicative of that - unless you were trying to make a joke.

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

The reasons you a listing for needing a USB connection (continuing to deny that iPad has one) are all functions that I perform mostly wirelessly.

How many external hard drives connect wirelessly ?

how many webcameras ?

how many sony videocams for that matter ?

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

What does the iPad do well that a netbook doesn't?

nothing, it just sit pretty, and apparently it can pull girls at the local coffee shop, perfect if you are a typical mac loser without a date

Quack Quack bought two already,