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Old 03-12-2008, 07:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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DVD Encryption

Wonder if any of you savvy guys can help?
Recentley got a couple of DVD 9 Videos, 1 is Sony, dual layer, Hancock DVD, the other is Disney Wall E, I have been trying to "back them up" using various software, DVD Decrypter, AnyDVD etc.
I am beggining to wonder if these have new copyright protection, I can create an ISO no problem, it plays back with my PC DVD player perfectly, but if you burn this to DVD and try to play on a DVD player, the damn thing is all over the place, e.g. When I run the ISO on Power DVD, or run through it using AnyDVD or any other software it plays ok, menus etc. are all there. When I burn the ISO to DVD and try and play it on the DVD player (3 different ones) there is no menu structure, and the DVD starts half way through and plays about 4 seconds of video constantly repeating like a menu of its own.

If you jump chapters they are all in what appears to be random order, any ideas?

On older DVD's I have had no problems, only with these 2008 issues.
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Old 03-12-2008, 07:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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what software did you use for the ISO dump ? I always decrypt my ISO dump for good measure,

posted before here a nice utility that does this on the fly, making DVD decrypter obsolete
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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what software did you use for the ISO dump ? I always decrypt my ISO dump for good measure,

posted before here a nice utility that does this on the fly, making DVD decrypter obsolete
Basically all I do is use DVD decrypter, in the read ISO mode to rip the DVD, if the dvd is the right size, eg. DVD5-DVD5, then I use DVD decrypter to write the dvd in reverse mode, ie read ISO burn DVD.

But each time I used it on these DVDs, it had problems, I have never had it before.

I can view the movies when I mount the ISO image (using Nero 8) and viewing them as a movie,(Power DVD) they are perfect,(using any software DVD player) I can burn the DVD's from the image, and they play perfect, on the PC. but take the same DVD and try and play it on a stand alone and it is complete garbage, the menus have gone, it plays scenes from half way through the DVD as if they were repeatable menus, the chapters are all to hell...I am at a loss!
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I wouldn't use DVD decrypter to burn DVDs, try something else, the usual software like NERO etc... they can also burn ISO
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What speed are you burning it at and what media are you using?
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What speed are you burning it at and what media are you using?
I'm using TDK DVD-R (16X) on a Samsung 223U or Pioneer dvr105, but neither works, maximum burn is 16X but it never gets there, maximum is 10X
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If this can help, don't ask me more as I never copy DVD's:

AfterDawn.com: Guides: Copy entire DVD-9 movie to a single DVD-R using DVD Shrink
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maximum burn is 16X but it never gets there, maximum is 10X
should always burn it at minimum speeds anyway.
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:47 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Try DVD Fab, good for getting rid of reigons and copyright protection.
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If this can help, don't ask me more as I never copy DVD's:

AfterDawn.com: Guides: Copy entire DVD-9 movie to a single DVD-R using DVD Shrink

Nah, DVD shrink just makes life worse.
But cheers for the suggestions.
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:04 PM   #11 (permalink)
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This might be more for AVI Xvid but you can have a look here

http://www.kibisoft.com/

How To: How to Burn Any Video File to a Playable Video DVD
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Might be a silly question, but you are using a dual layer burner aren't you?
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
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This might be more for AVI Xvid but you can have a look here

http://www.kibisoft.com/

How To: How to Burn Any Video File to a Playable Video DVD
Cheers for that but it seems to be more of a problem with DVD encryption.
Anyone here managed to burn a copy of Wall E?
Seems like Disney has tried a new encoding method.
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I burnt an Xvid copy to a normal CD if thats any use.
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I burnt an Xvid copy to a normal CD if thats any use.
Thanks, but all I want to do is make a copy of Wall E, DVD, my boy does not take care of them too well, and the original cost about 300 baht, but it seems it cannot be copied.

There (using AnyDVD) is quite a bit of anti piracy there, false read errors, false menus, there was quite a list, AnyDVD could find these, and block them, but couldn't rip an ISO from it, the other software can rip the ISO but cannot get rid of the anti copy shit, so not sure where to go from here.
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I had a few DVDs I couldn't copy, the trick for them was to have the "damaged" sectors take hours, if not days, for making the ISO dump

when you have thousands of read errors, then you know it's impossible to copy

I still think you should try to burn the ISO with a different software, make the dump and use NERO, might do the trick
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Try DVD Fab, good for getting rid of reigons and copyright protection.
Tried DVD FAB, its just a clone of DVD de Crypter, regions are not the problem I have Region Killer already. No problem with CSS/CPPM, can get round all of those.

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Might be a silly question, but you are using a dual layer burner aren't you?
Yes it can burn Dual layer, but I am converting Dual layer to 4.7GB. never a problem before, only these new Disney and Sony DVD's.

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Been there too, it appears that the DVD's may have a new encryption, when I run AnyDVD, it finds false bad sectors and a numerous ammounts of other bits and bobs put on there, it says it has bypassed them, and indeed all the software I use can play the DVD perfectly on the computer, from the original disk, from the mounted ISO, from the VOB files, but burn it ti a disc and it is a pile of shit!

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I had a few DVDs I couldn't copy, the trick for them was to have the "damaged" sectors take hours, if not days, for making the ISO dump

when you have thousands of read errors, then you know it's impossible to copy

I still think you should try to burn the ISO with a different software, make the dump and use NERO, might do the trick
The Wall E comes up with 64 read errors using DVD Decrypter, but the ISO it generates is fine, but burn it and it is complete rubbish.

If you don't disable the error checking the thing hangs for hours, it's some sort of "bad sector" encryption that is causing this, as I said, AnyDVD says it has found it, but it doesn't seem to be able to bypass it.

Strange.
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The Wall E comes up with 64 read errors using DVD Decrypter, but the ISO it generates is fine, but burn it and it is complete rubbish.
because you are burning it with the wrong software, try something different. Burning is not the same as dumping ISO, hopefully you can understand the difference

otherwise buy the original if it's only 300 THB, I wouldn't bother

64 read errors is quite reasonable, I had thousands. You need to get the right software to break all those securities and sometimes some of them don't do as advertised,
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I use DVD43 to get around copyright protection, its a small program that runs in the background and fire's up automatically when you insert a copyright protected dvd...

takes about 5 seconds to do its thing then i poke em through DVD shrink (i dont have a dual layer burner)..

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