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melvbot · 03-12-2008, 08:32 AM

This isnt aything to do with Firefox but its made by Mozilla, I put it here as its Win/Mac/Linux and a few more people might notice it.

This is Songbird, Mozillas answer to iTunes. As its made by the FF people its supposed to be extensible so could be some interesting stuff come out for it if it takes off.

Songbird - Open Source Music Player

System specs are as below

System Requirements

Windows

Windows XP SP2, Windows Vista
1.5 GHz Pentium 4 or comparable
At least 512 MB of physical RAM
At least 150 MB of available space on your hard drive
16 bit sound card (Recommended: 32 bit Sound Card)
Speakers or headphones

Mac

Mac OS X 10.5 or later
Macintosh computer with an Intel x86 processor
At least 512 MB of physical RAM
At least 200 MB of available space on your hard drive

Linux

The Songbird QA team tests Songbird on Ubuntu 8.04 32-bit and 64-bit, and Fedora 9 32-bit.

glibc 2.3.4 or later
XOrg 1.0 or later
gtk+2.10 or later
fontconfig (also known as xft)
libstdc++6
1.5 GHz Pentium 4 or comparable
At least 512 MB of physical RAM
At least 200 MB of available space on your hard drive
16 bit sound card (Recommended: 32-bit Sound Card)
Speakers or headphones

I cant try this on my comp as its 10.5 only which is a bit disappointing. If anyone uses it let me know if its any good/bad.

melvbot · 03-12-2008, 08:38 AM

A short video of features here

Customize Songbird

ChiangMai noon · 03-12-2008, 08:43 AM

what does it do?

I'm not familiar with Itunes.

Marmite the Dog · 03-12-2008, 10:07 AM

It looks good and there is an iPod plug-in.

kingwilly · 03-12-2008, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

It looks good

oh well, that settles it, I'm getting it then.

*sheesh my missus says that about the new car she wants to buy!*

Plan B · 04-12-2008, 02:18 PM

I just got songbird on Ubuntu. Put it up against Amarok. Songbird sounds better, so I'm sold. Doesn't look too user friendly though. Might have to have a play with it at the weekend.

Greenie for MB when I get reloaded.

melvbot · 04-12-2008, 02:46 PM

Its only just hit 1.0 so I'd expect things to be a bit quirky and not 100% polished. I'd love to try it out but they dont cover my system.

Plan B · 04-12-2008, 02:56 PM

Okay, after a few more songs it doesn't sound better for every song type. The photos and artist info in the main window looks good though (especially when some hottie like Rihanna is playing

). I'm used to Amarok being a bit quirky given that it's not written for Gnome, and it throws a spaz on rare occasions.

Seems that it's using a whole lotta CPU though. Might cause slowdowns if I run too many apps. Will find out later.

melvbot · 05-12-2008, 09:08 AM

Posted this in the Windows thread when I thought it was the Firefox thread

Something nice from Microsoft if you get .DOCX files and are on an older system which has an older version of Word on it.

This is a plugin for Firefox and works with Windows and Linux.

Featured Firefox Extension: OpenXML Document Viewer Opens Office 2007 Files in Firefox

Marmite the Dog · 05-12-2008, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melvbot

This is Songbird

No eq control for it though.

melvbot · 06-12-2008, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Quote:

Originally Posted by melvbot

This is Songbird

No eq control for it though.

Ive just been reading about that, seems like a massive oversight not to include and eq. Apparently its "on the list" of features to come.

melvbot · 09-12-2008, 08:49 AM

Mozilla has released Firefox 3.1 BETA 2, if your only experience of BETA is from the heady days of VCR then its not going to be of much interest to you. If you like playing around with the pre full release stuff then head over to

Firefox web browser | International versions: Get Firefox in your language

And grab a copy to see whats coming for the full release.

Plan B · 09-12-2008, 10:07 AM

Does anyone actually use eq controls anymore? Soundcards and amps have them already.

Marmite the Dog · 09-12-2008, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan B

Soundcards and amps have them already.

True, but it means opening another application, which I can't be bothered to do.

melvbot · 10-12-2008, 08:29 AM

This isnt an extension its just something I like about Mozilla. They like users to get involved with stuff.

Mozilla Community Store

CharleyFarley · 10-12-2008, 10:03 AM

Do you have any suggestions Melvbot on keeping FF 3.0.4 memory usage down?

Other than reloading everyday and restricting add-ons.

At times my memory usage exceeds 400 Meg and I don't know how to check what is going on.

ChiangMai noon · 10-12-2008, 10:09 AM

^
I have given up on the firefox 3 memory leakage.

gone back to firefox 2.

much better.

melvbot · 10-12-2008, 10:17 AM

Ive stopped using FF3 for the exact same reason (Mac BTW), Ive switched to Camino which based on Mozilla's Gecko engine, uses less resources. Im going to play with the 3.1 beta for a bit and see how that fares this week.

There are a few *fixes* for the memory leak by editing the about:config but they didnt make much difference for me

How to fix the Firefox memory leak (Firefox hack) « // Internet Duct Tape

Flash can sometimes bog it down a bit as well, adding flashblock if you havent already might help a bit.

Marmite the Dog · 10-12-2008, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melvbot

gone back to firefox 2.

I found 2 to be worse than 3.

CharleyFarley · 10-12-2008, 03:22 PM

Yeah, have flashblock, dont really wanna go back to 2, 3 is shit, so where is 4?

03-12-2008, 08:32 AM	#121 (permalink)
melvbot Gadgetologist Last Online: Today 05:03 PM Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Yoo K Posts: 5,295	This isnt aything to do with Firefox but its made by Mozilla, I put it here as its Win/Mac/Linux and a few more people might notice it. This is Songbird, Mozillas answer to iTunes. As its made by the FF people its supposed to be extensible so could be some interesting stuff come out for it if it takes off. Songbird - Open Source Music Player System specs are as below System Requirements Windows Windows XP SP2, Windows Vista 1.5 GHz Pentium 4 or comparable At least 512 MB of physical RAM At least 150 MB of available space on your hard drive 16 bit sound card (Recommended: 32 bit Sound Card) Speakers or headphones Mac Mac OS X 10.5 or later Macintosh computer with an Intel x86 processor At least 512 MB of physical RAM At least 200 MB of available space on your hard drive Linux The Songbird QA team tests Songbird on Ubuntu 8.04 32-bit and 64-bit, and Fedora 9 32-bit. glibc 2.3.4 or later XOrg 1.0 or later gtk+2.10 or later fontconfig (also known as xft) libstdc++6 1.5 GHz Pentium 4 or comparable At least 512 MB of physical RAM At least 200 MB of available space on your hard drive 16 bit sound card (Recommended: 32-bit Sound Card) Speakers or headphones I cant try this on my comp as its 10.5 only which is a bit disappointing. If anyone uses it let me know if its any good/bad.

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melvbot Gadgetologist Last Online: Today 05:03 PM Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Yoo K Posts: 5,295	Ive stopped using FF3 for the exact same reason (Mac BTW), Ive switched to Camino which based on Mozilla's Gecko engine, uses less resources. Im going to play with the 3.1 beta for a bit and see how that fares this week. There are a few fixes for the memory leak by editing the about:config but they didnt make much difference for me How to fix the Firefox memory leak (Firefox hack) « // Internet Duct Tape Flash can sometimes bog it down a bit as well, adding flashblock if you havent already might help a bit. Last edited by melvbot : 10-12-2008 at 10:25 AM.

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03-12-2008, 08:38 AM	#122 (permalink)
melvbot Gadgetologist Last Online: Today 05:03 PM Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Yoo K Posts: 5,295	A short video of features here Customize Songbird

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ChiangMai noon punk douche bag Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn Posts: 28,341	what does it do? I'm not familiar with Itunes.

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Marmite the Dog ผู้เชี่ยวชาญเปล่า Last Online: Today 02:28 PM Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Simian Islands Posts: 31,038	It looks good and there is an iPod plug-in.

04-12-2008, 02:18 PM	#126 (permalink)
Plan B Soon to be BANNED by KW. Last Online: Today 05:04 PM Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 1,783	I just got songbird on Ubuntu. Put it up against Amarok. Songbird sounds better, so I'm sold. Doesn't look too user friendly though. Might have to have a play with it at the weekend. Greenie for MB when I get reloaded.

04-12-2008, 02:46 PM	#127 (permalink)
melvbot Gadgetologist Last Online: Today 05:03 PM Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Yoo K Posts: 5,295	Its only just hit 1.0 so I'd expect things to be a bit quirky and not 100% polished. I'd love to try it out but they dont cover my system.

04-12-2008, 02:56 PM	#128 (permalink)
Plan B Soon to be BANNED by KW. Last Online: Today 05:04 PM Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 1,783	Okay, after a few more songs it doesn't sound better for every song type. The photos and artist info in the main window looks good though (especially when some hottie like Rihanna is playing ). I'm used to Amarok being a bit quirky given that it's not written for Gnome, and it throws a spaz on rare occasions. Seems that it's using a whole lotta CPU though. Might cause slowdowns if I run too many apps. Will find out later.

05-12-2008, 09:08 AM	#129 (permalink)
melvbot Gadgetologist Last Online: Today 05:03 PM Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Yoo K Posts: 5,295	Posted this in the Windows thread when I thought it was the Firefox thread Something nice from Microsoft if you get .DOCX files and are on an older system which has an older version of Word on it. This is a plugin for Firefox and works with Windows and Linux. Featured Firefox Extension: OpenXML Document Viewer Opens Office 2007 Files in Firefox

09-12-2008, 08:49 AM	#132 (permalink)
melvbot Gadgetologist Last Online: Today 05:03 PM Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Yoo K Posts: 5,295	Mozilla has released Firefox 3.1 BETA 2, if your only experience of BETA is from the heady days of VCR then its not going to be of much interest to you. If you like playing around with the pre full release stuff then head over to Firefox web browser \| International versions: Get Firefox in your language And grab a copy to see whats coming for the full release.

09-12-2008, 10:07 AM	#133 (permalink)
Plan B Soon to be BANNED by KW. Last Online: Today 05:04 PM Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 1,783	Does anyone actually use eq controls anymore? Soundcards and amps have them already.

10-12-2008, 08:29 AM	#135 (permalink)
melvbot Gadgetologist Last Online: Today 05:03 PM Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Yoo K Posts: 5,295	This isnt an extension its just something I like about Mozilla. They like users to get involved with stuff. Mozilla Community Store

10-12-2008, 10:03 AM	#136 (permalink)
CharleyFarley Tiger Bay Last Online: 05-11-2009 07:10 AM Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: aberthin Posts: 1,503	Do you have any suggestions Melvbot on keeping FF 3.0.4 memory usage down? Other than reloading everyday and restricting add-ons. At times my memory usage exceeds 400 Meg and I don't know how to check what is going on.

10-12-2008, 10:09 AM	#137 (permalink)
ChiangMai noon punk douche bag Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn Posts: 28,341	^ I have given up on the firefox 3 memory leakage. gone back to firefox 2. much better.

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