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    ^ Thanks, I'll see how things go.

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    I just downloaded the latest version of Opera browser for W7 Ultimate. Comes with free VPN and unlimited usage.

    Switched on the VPN last night and browsing slowed down. I assume that's an unavoidable downside?

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    I use TouchVPN on my phone. So far no probs.
    Gets around all the thai banned sites. Speed is shite with or without being on. All 3G at the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    I am still unsure why people would get a VPN just for torrents

    use a seedbox

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Surely Chrome
    fcuk chrome - it is going evil

    start looking at seamonkey and palemoon for your next browser
    Don't be silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazza
    Switched on the VPN last night and browsing slowed down. I assume that's an unavoidable downside?
    True. It's a question of tradeoffs. Are you willing to give up some internet browsing speed in return for the privacy and anonymity provided by a VPN? The answer for me is: sometimes. In any case you should know the difference in speed when the VPN is turned on and when it's turned off. Top 10 Best Online Internet Speed Test Tools to Check Internet Speed at Free - All Tech Prime

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    Not for me. It's a question of what blocked sites I can unlock with a VPN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    It's a question of what blocked sites I can unlock with a VPN.
    For me it's about the Dark Web. I also use the Tor browser which is as good as most VPNs. If you add a VPN on top of it that's about as secure as you can get on a Windows or a Mac platform. But you can install Tails, an open source OS, on a USB stick. All outgoing connections are forced to go through the Tor network:
    Tor directs Internet traffic through a free, worldwide, volunteer network consisting of more than seven thousand relays to conceal a user's location and usage from anyone conducting network surveillance or traffic analysis.
    About Tails:
    It aims at preserving your privacy and anonymity, and helps you to:

    use the Internet anonymously and circumvent censorship;
    all connections to the Internet are forced to go through the Tor network;
    leave no trace on the computer you are using unless you ask it explicitly;
    https://tails.boum.org/install/win/u.../index.en.html

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    Yeah, they know what you're up to, they just don't care.

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    what kind of cocksucker use a VPN these days

    The NSA is tracking everything, even your fucking VPN traffic

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    FFS Look I'm even agreeing with Buttplug!

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Yeah, they know what you're up to, they just don't care.
    A VPN, or virtual private network, is software that secures and privatizes data across the Internet by building an “encrypted tunnel.” When you access the Internet, your data passes through this tunnel which protects it from anyone who tries to intercept it. A VPN like PRIVATE WiFi encrypts everything: your email, your web browsing history, your IMs, your VOIP, everything. Another benefit of using a VPN is that even if your data is intercepted, your identity is protected, since a VPN masks your IP address.
    If a VPN is thought of as “one hop,” using the Tor network can be thought of as “three hops.” Instead of setting up a single server between you and your destination, using the Tor system bounces your connection through three separate servers before making the connection to the site you want to go to. The increased complexity of the connection makes it extremely difficult for anyone to monitor browsing traffic (though it’s been rumored that the NSA is making some progress in compromising the system).
    Ask the Expert: Can a VPN Protect You From Government Surveillance? ? Private WiFi

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    Who do you think owns or has access to the VPN servers?

    Who do you think owns or has access to the Tor nodes?

    Why are you so gullible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    FFS Look I'm even agreeing with Buttplug!
    can't let that shit happens Harry,

    you need to up your game,

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    Tor is completely under NSA control, part of Pentagon war on information program,

    why do people assume otherwise ? stupid as stupid does !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    FFS Look I'm even agreeing with Buttplug!
    Here's another one Harry...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly
    Tor is completely under NSA control, part of Pentagon war on information program,

    why do people assume otherwise ? stupid as stupid does !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sumbitch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    FFS Look I'm even agreeing with Buttplug!
    Here's another one Harry...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly
    Tor is completely under NSA control, part of Pentagon war on information program,

    why do people assume otherwise ? stupid as stupid does !!!
    Yeah, he is a drama queen and gets carried away sometimes. You know what some gay men are like.

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    Pure VPN is ok but it has an annoying feature when logging out of your computer. There are compulsory message to answer 'are you sure you want to....?' Its a windup to be honest. I probably will not renew with PureVPN

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    not that I have done this but a machine without Hdd just using Knoppix on cd or usb stick would be untraceable with a vpn?
    Used to buy Linux magazines and loved there free distro cd's

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    they trace your IP address not your hard drive I believe but I have been known to be wrong

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    Just assume that the feds can see where you are and what you are doing, and don't give them a reason to be interested in who you are.

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    Post deleted. Problem solved.
    Last edited by Pragmatic; 01-05-2017 at 08:00 AM.

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    A VPN will not save you from government surveillance
    Privacy is a multi-faced topic, and so to protect it, you need to take more than a single precaution.

    By Chris Duckett for Null Pointer | April 30, 2017 -- 22:49 GMT (23:49 BST) | Topic: Security

    Late on Friday afternoon, the Commissioner of the Australian Federal Police waltzed out in front of the microphones and admitted that his agency had misused the metadata that the nation's telecommunication companies are forced to store.

    It was a stunning admission. The nation had barely made it a fortnight since the deadline for telcos to have their data retention systems in place had passed, yet here was the AFP self-reporting an event that saw an officer in breach of the metadata laws, and despite years of preparation and interaction with metadata, placed the blame on "human error".

    Naturally for the cynics watching, AFP Commissioner Andrew Colvin said the officer involved would not be punished, and the AFP said later in a statement that "it was not an offence under the Act".

    Alastair MacGibbon, formerly of the AFP and now special adviser to the prime minister on cybersecurity, said on Twitter: "It's clear this is a story of human error which AFP caught themselves thru [sic] audit & owned. That's transparency & accountability."

    The message is clear: The AFP are doing a good thing by admitting its mistakes, and you should continue to trust them. Don't fear that it is able to warrantlessly sift through the metadata of Australians at will.

    The irony in this entire situation is the AFP was caught in the equivalent of the only mouse trap in a field several acres in size -- it was incorrectly given a journalist's metadata; specifically a week's worth of call records.

    Under the laws that force telcos to store customers' call records, location information, IP addresses, billing information, and other data for two years, there is a small caveat for journalists that forces agencies to obtain a warrant when seeking to uncover a journalist's source.

    Neither the journalist, nor the telcos, will ever know that such a warrant existed, but these provisions were essentially a figleaf to shut up the Canberra press gallery under the auspices of protecting democracy and freedom of the press when the data retention laws were being considered -- and it worked.

    But journalist warrants are almost superfluous. By asking for the metadata of anyone considered to be a journalist's source, agencies can still find out if communication with a journalist happened, and will therefore be able to skirt these provisions at will.

    Upon the news that the AFP had handled the metadata of a journalist, the online outrage squad kicked into gear with a chorus singing the praises of Australia's magic bullet to security in 2017: using a VPN.

    "Get a VPN. Use Signal!" the online masses screamed as Colvin was delivering his press conference.

    To think that merely encasing one's data communications in a encrypted tunnel is enough to stop the authorities from invading one's privacy is no different from sitting on six drums of gasoline with a lit stick of dynamite and thinking you are safe because you have a fire extinguisher.

    As Friday's events showed, no VPN in the world would have saved this particular journalist's call records. The only thing that would have, was to never have communicated with a source via the phone in the first place.

    Even if the conversation had been moved onto a service such as Signal, if the journalist had physically met with the source and carried their mobile phone with them, a telco would then be able to provide the authorities with source's location data to help their investigation.

    If the source had been silly enough to communicate via an email address controlled by an Australian ISP, the AFP could have simply requested the metadata of those emails to establish that communication with a journalist had occurred.

    And all this same data could have been handed to the AFP about the journalist in question, if a journalist warrant had existed.

    Encrypted communications are useful in protecting some aspects of people's digital lives from enforcement agencies, but it is a band-aid that constantly needs reapplication, not a cure.

    The only way to truly get unwarranted government surveillance off your back is to end the system, and the US took a small step towards that last week when it ended the collection of domestic emails and text messages that mention details about foreign targets.

    But it will be a long time before Australia makes any movements in the same direction, with both major parties continuing their support for the Abbott/Shorten data retention scheme they both voted for.

    "This legislation was passed by Parliament with the assurance that the system had strong safeguards and could be trusted," Shadow Attorney General Mark Dreyfus said on Friday. "That trust has now been breached."

    It might be tempting to think that Labor is beginning to realise it was sold a pup, but Dreyfus speaks of the "unique place the media holds in our democracy" and not the ongoing privacy breaches that occur on a daily basis to the rest of the population, or when journalists finish work and their metadata is regarded the same as everyone else's.

    There were warnings in 2015 when former intelligence officer and now Member for Denison, Andrew Wilkie, said any access to metadata needed a warrant.

    "Yes, that will be hard. It will slow things up. But it will ensure that the security agencies less and less unnecessarily access our property, and more and more focus on the property of people who should be scrutinised," he said.

    "Of course they will ask for everything, that is their job. It is our job to limit what they get; to limit it to what is acceptable to the community; to limit the power of the state to acceptable levels."

    Just over two years ago, Australia created a codified method for tracking the location and communication of all its citizens and residents, a scheme shrouded in secrecy that offers an unlimited buffet lunch to all authorised agencies.

    Call me cynical if you want, but until the AFP stands in front of a press conference apologising for mishandling the metadata of an unemployed welfare recipient in the outer suburbs of an Australian city, I will not believe they are committed to transparency.

    On Friday, the AFP gave lip service to updating the training and processes to the organisation, but make no mistake, it'll be business as usual when officers return to work on Monday, and the metadata of Australians is able to be warrantlessly sifted through by enforcement agencies to their heart's content.

    Using a VPN is not a bad idea, but it is not a cure-all to the bigger issue of surveillance.

    Telling people online to use Signal is like declaring someone needs to floss their teeth to fight off a tooth infection.

    Australia needs an extraction, not a solution to remove the contents of last night's dinner.

    A VPN will not save you from government surveillance | ZDNet

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